Quote (ferdia @ 8 Nov 2017 12:24)

no, not really, the same issue arises, since hld dudu's know how to kill trappers and your simply a much watered down version
for 49 rabies, you have the problem of trying to catch players which does not make it suitable for your purposes. your much better off playing a esfb in that instance.

Quote (Belarathon @ Jan 31 2018 06:34am)

How do they do it... ISO help. The only part of windy I'm decent at is telestomp/chainlock. Everytime I come near a trapper it goes the same way: first encounter = lose all cyclone and a bit of life. 2nd encounter = lose the majority of my life. 3rd+ encounter = die.

I guess I could just be quicker/better with locks and I must stomp them and get them running then tele away before they have a chance to turn around and MB me to turn the tables. But is it really just a matter of faster/better locks or is there some dvt trick that I'm too noob to know about? Also not wanting to do lame af house/box abuse if that is a factor

Quote (JAKEFILE @ Jul 3 2017 05:56pm)

how much has the community suffered since my accounts were closed?

Quote (Belarathon @ Jan 31 2018 01:34pm)

How do they do it... ISO help. The only part of windy I'm decent at is telestomp/chainlock. Everytime I come near a trapper it goes the same way: first encounter = lose all cyclone and a bit of life. 2nd encounter = lose the majority of my life. 3rd+ encounter = die.

I guess I could just be quicker/better with locks and I must stomp them and get them running then tele away before they have a chance to turn around and MB me to turn the tables. But is it really just a matter of faster/better locks or is there some dvt trick that I'm too noob to know about? Also not wanting to do lame af house/box abuse if that is a factor

Quote (thesnipa @ Jan 31 2018 08:26pm)

twinsen, if u dueled a normal phys dmg charger at 30 on your druid wat is the typical result? 5-0? even? 0-5?

cuz im convinced shocker charger with a Sol rune spirit shroud is a 5-0 over tele dudu.

Quote (Twinsen @ Jan 31 2018 02:51pm)

Well :D I cant say i've ever played against a 30 charger or shocker in a ft5.
But on eu some ppl seems to be convinced dudu 5-0 everything cus of all the rule discussion about nerfing them.
While a few years back I heard ingame and on jsp from some fellow euros that 30 windies are barely viable.. which convinced me to make one in the first place to prove them wrong. :lol:

Quote (Avenged123 @ 31 Jan 2018 07:41)

Would explain why you think not being able to recast in lld is no big deal, you can't kill ppl w/ hld lmao foh

Quote (Twinsen @ 31 Jan 2018 13:10)

I dont think its any shame to lose that m/u at 30^^
Anyway i've got more experience from hld dvt than lld dvt.
I think its easier to win dvt at hld than on lld.


hld dudu can easily get something like 1xx+ strbugged frw, 30 repl~
at hld recast cyclone + 1 abs item gm. ( on all realms afaik )

@hld dvt
Do a quick stomp or blindspot c/t tele + couple of nados and then wsg away. Recast cyclone and oak/grizzly, tele around while u wait for a good moment to stomp again and for mb swirly to go away then rinse and repeat.
Most of the times you wont even take much dmg from ls u will easy escape with that much bugged frw + wsg and just prio to recast cyclone first. If the sin stomp u while u wsg away just nado her and continue to wsg away and nado north on the sin in between, it will hurt the sin more than the dudu most of the times.
Just gotta be careful not getting hit too much by trappers with ow kicks or imba claws with dragon claw.
And mind blast ( can do suprisingly much dmg to dudus when trapper maxed mb and ur oak is down from traps.


At lld it will play out a bit different imo since the trap dmg is the obvious main threat.
strbugged light plates and maybe 10-14 x 5% frw scs could really come in handy in this m/u. ( plain ones will do just fine since mana/res is easy enough to get elsewhere. )
Don't stomp if sin already got the mb swirly on you, wait until its gone and for the right moment.
While wsging away u can sometimes do a backlock and often caught them offguard. Probably not a good idea if they have 5 traps still up close.
If you notice most her traps are dead or not close u can also turn and wsg back at her and try to get nado hits in before she replace them^^
c/t stomps for extra tele range can suprise them too but a bit harder to aim with.
if u stomp sin and wsg down and upnado in between u force her to move or to tank the nados, if she moves she probably lose the mb-lock for a sec then tele on her or just above of her and nado down^^


basically just mix in some different strategies :P
How much frw did you try out? Fhr amount? And you got a 5 nado pelt with grizzly vs trappers?

Quote (Belarathon @ Feb 1 2018 04:47am)

What? This message legit makes no sense.

I LLD, I do not HLD. This is the LLD section. Druids do not have FoH. Go back to your cage.



I don't have a Grizzly pelt, but I figure it would die in 1 trap hit anyways?

I originally had a 100% frw setup to vs trappers, but I don't have it anymore and am not interested in hunting down and overpaying for more 5% frw scs, so I'm basically limited to 30-40 frw forever lol.

I guess that makes sense for HLD since you can recast plus have an absorb item, plus they have like 7k life or whatever. I know to stay away with the MB swirl on, however half the time I just feel so helpless that I do it anyways out of kind of an "I give up" attitude. I tried c/ting with them but you'e right it's harder to aim and vs a good trapper usually I would end up just being MB'd instantly after the tele.

I like your last idea, which has been my general strategy (stomp on them, wsg in w/e direction [since they dont tele] shooting nadoes back at them), but honestly most sins will just hold their MB lock the entire time and if we are going to do a blow-for-blow like that, she's going to win. Like I'll lose more life from the full MB lock + trap hits than she will from eating 1-2 nadoes.

e/ can you record videos of you owning some trappers dvt lvl 30 for training purposes ^_^ :unsure: :hail:

Quote (Twinsen @ Jan 31 2018 03:51pm)

Well :D I cant say i've ever played against a 30 charger or shocker in a ft5.
But on eu some ppl seems to be convinced dudu 5-0 everything cus of all the rule discussion about nerfing them.
While a few years back I heard ingame and on jsp from some fellow euros that 30 windies are barely viable.. which convinced me to make one in the first place to prove them wrong. :lol: