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Feb 9 2010 05:10pm
Quote (zspoonz @ Feb 9 2010 03:02pm)
the dmg output on robo/honor for tri whirls is much better than robo/robo if u do tri whirls(aka short whirls around the person) because the first 2 checks are are at 4fpa for both weps. so if u r in tri whirl range the honor naga is just as fast as the robo, but does more dmg. and as for psn or ow negating a barbs rep, at lvl 30 no casters really use ow or psn. and even if psn/ow does affect the barb, the rep still helps because it still reduces the dmg taken compared to not having any rep at all.


How often to you catch a caster, zon or other such chars in a tri whirl though? I mean yeah, you can easily get smiters, ss druids and other melee chars in tri whirl but for most of those you're going to be using a shield anyways. Most of your spins are going to be singular and straight unless you can catch someone in a good pattern. I see where you're coming from though, there are some duels where robo/honor/72 will be better but I think overall, that robo/robo/honor's potential for damage output is too hard to ignore.

I agree with XENO, it really depends on the style of play you have. Preference will inevitably be the determining factor. Personally, I play my barbs very aggressively. The more potential for damage output, the better.

This post was edited by GTL on Feb 9 2010 05:11pm
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Quote (GTL @ Feb 9 2010 05:36pm)
It's not that huge. Not when rep life is easily nullified by OW or poison damage, which most characters employ. If there was more rep.. 40 or more.. robo/honor/72 would be more equatable to robo/robo/peace, but as is... imo, it still doesn't quite square up.

what did you mean by tri whirls though?


OW/poison damage are irrelevant vs most casters though, and this is going to be a bva, not strictly bvb

tri-whirl is basically

__whirl to here
_/___________\
/____________\
start here____ whirl to here then back to start
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Quote (ClanBK @ Feb 9 2010 05:11pm)
OW/poison damage are irrelevant vs most casters though, and this is going to be a bva, not strictly bvb

tri-whirl is basically

__whirl to here
_/___________\
/____________\
start here____ whirl to here then back to start


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Quote (GTL @ Feb 9 2010 05:10pm)
How often to you catch a caster, zon or other such chars in a tri whirl though? I mean yeah, you can easily get smiters, ss druids and other melee chars in tri whirl but for most of those you're going to be using a shield anyways. Most of your spins are going to be singular and straight unless you can catch someone in a good pattern. I see where you're coming from though, there are some duels where robo/honor/72 will be better but I think overall, that robo/robo/honor's potential for damage output is too hard to ignore.

I agree with XENO, it really depends on the style of play you have. Preference will inevitably be the determining factor. Personally, I play my barbs very aggressively. The more potential for damage output, the better.


also if u synch with a long whirl and chain it to a tri whirl u would be surprised how many times this worksXD and getting the tri whirl started is the hard part, once u get one going they will likely be stuck in block/hit recovery animations.

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Feb 9 2010 05:15pm
Quote (ClanBK @ Feb 9 2010 03:11pm)
OW/poison damage are irrelevant vs most casters though, and this is going to be a bva, not strictly bvb

tri-whirl is basically

__whirl to here
_/___________\
/____________\
start here____ whirl to here then back to start


Yes, ow/psn are irrelevant for most casters, however.. I've found that most casters like to push the card and be more aggressive. We both know that sorcs like to lay fbs and blizz on you from a distance. I was thinking most of REALLY defensive builds like rabies and zons where poison really factors in.

Yeah, it's a Z shape or Triangle. I just didn't understand the east slang for it lol.
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Yes, ow/psn are irrelevant for most casters, however.. I've found that most casters like to push the card and be more aggressive. We both know that sorcs like to lay fbs and blizz on you from a distance. I was thinking most of REALLY defensive builds like rabies and zons where poison really factors in.

Yeah, it's a Z shape or Triangle. I just didn't understand the east slang for it lol.


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Quote (zspoonz @ Feb 9 2010 11:02pm)
the dmg output on robo/honor for tri whirls is much better than robo/robo if u do tri whirls(aka short whirls around the person) because the first 2 checks are are at 4fpa for both weps. so if u r in tri whirl range the honor naga is just as fast as the robo, but does more dmg. and as for psn or ow negating a barbs rep, at lvl 30 no casters really use ow or psn. and even if psn/ow does affect the barb, the rep still helps because it still reduces the dmg taken compared to not having any rep at all.


any barb that gears based on the notion that he will have the opportunity to get off tri-wws all the time is bound to fail
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