This dmg difference is only observed in long whirls, for tri whirls the dmg output from robo/honor>>robo/robo. also the rep from honor is a huge help when dueling hdins or any caster that likes to play defensive.

Lingo is slightly different on west I suppose, what do you mean when you say "tri whirls"?

I disagree with you about the rep. Most barbs won't get more than 20 or so rep, unless they rock pcrown. This is assuming they are also using honor.. That's like... less than 2 hps per second. Even if your duel lasts 5 minutes, it still only amounts to 500ish hps.

Whirling around people in triangle like patterns. As short as possible.

that lil bit of rep will help even if it amounts to 100+ life over a duel is huge>.>

Only 500... Thats a lot lol

blood letter and honor zwei

It's not that huge. Not when rep life is easily nullified by OW or poison damage, which most characters employ. If there was more rep.. 40 or more.. robo/honor/72 would be more equatable to robo/robo/peace, but as is... imo, it still doesn't quite square up.

what did you mean by tri whirls though?



Don't get me wrong, rep life is great. I just don't think, even with the other advantages that is matches up to the damage output of robo/robo/peace.

This post was edited by GTL on Feb 9 2010 04:37pm

Diddnt say it did. However you could comprimize with obo/honor/peace which also adds a skill to peace's crit

Well I can't say the liferep and life don't have arguements all their own. For any LLD char I've usually seen people go high liferep or not at all, not sure why (although nothing wrong with just a bit of liferep).

I tend to ignore it on barbs, but thats mostly because I'm to impatient to be defensive enough to win some harder matchups. Thats a personal choice (and one that probably costs me some wins) but I play on a barb to NOT be passive, but super aggressive attacking instead. Thats the main reason I don't really care about liferep (and would rather just straight vita/dmg/frw), but if your duel style supports it, liferep can certainly be very helpful.
I also DO tri-whirl [meaning you do multipart ww's around someone, usually in a triangle pattern to be constantly hitting them. The reason is to keep hitchecks going and maybe fhr them while not eating dmg youself. I also try not to namelock (although I do still do it), but I use alot of medium passes as well.


I like the numbers, but am willing to admit the alternative setup certainly has its strengths as well. It doesn't have as much dmg, but is does gain some survivability.... making it possibly the better choice for some dueling styles?

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I've always felt there was room for both, just wanted to finally calculate it out and show people what the ias/peace versions strength's were. Ultimately I think your dueling style will determine which is a better fit for you.

the dmg output on robo/honor for tri whirls is much better than robo/robo if u do tri whirls(aka short whirls around the person) because the first 2 checks are are at 4fpa for both weps. so if u r in tri whirl range the honor naga is just as fast as the robo, but does more dmg. and as for psn or ow negating a barbs rep, at lvl 30 no casters really use ow or psn. and even if psn/ow does affect the barb, the rep still helps because it still reduces the dmg taken compared to not having any rep at all.