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Feb 1 2021 01:38pm
Quote (Avenged321 @ Feb 1 2021 02:21pm)
*b tier 2v2 tourney gets the most votes*

Kyu: “why no s tier tourney, the community clearly wants to do the s tier tourney more.”


if i am being honest i voted b-tier thinking it would have the same rules as the last b-tier with no xbow zon being the only change because that was how it was advertised. if i had voted s-tier it would have been 7 to 7, so please stfu.

Quote (IAmAsylum @ Feb 1 2021 02:21pm)
Host an S tier and I'll send 1k of my own fg for you to use as prize seed.

Otherwise stop complaining about the rules in a free tournament. Yes, neither of them will be for everyone but the S tier isn't for everyone either lol.


the s-tier event will allow hdins and sorcs, i think we can both agree that most new players build 1 of the 2. there are some really great duelers who have yet to be able to take advantage of your charity in these events, people who deserve it.

i am not even talking about me. i'm talking about people like hyung who only plays zon and is pretty decent, deadman and sinxxx who are both amazing hdin players but dont wanna enter 30 events that don't allow din because they dont have fun on non hdin, whiteshadowmaster who only owns a sorc, jay and bt who have yet to enter a single event because they like the better characters because those are the characters they have invested the most into.. people like that.. who have never entered a single lld tourney but give their time every night in tvt, and play way more often than even you do. those people and the others i haven't mentioned, deserve to have a shot at having some fun instead of being told there is a tourney duel going on so tvt is shot for the night..

i'd appreciate if you pool man, i don't have hate for you i honestly feel like you hate me because of me discussing rules too much, it's not because i dislike you or your events, i have said multiple times the first b tier event was my favorite ever and that is counting the hundreds of hld events i have been a part of even. i understand what you are saying about s tier not being for everyone that's why i had the idea of only 1 stier char per team, so that none of the double s tier teams can be played, and it promotes more fun than priding.
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Feb 1 2021 01:41pm
Quote (CloudMD @ Feb 1 2021 02:25pm)
ur literally the worst poll host I’ve ever seen

surprised that u haven’t scammed the fg already ex scammer:

https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=13736582&f=293&p=74855247#p74855247



Lol never saw this
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Feb 1 2021 01:41pm
Quote (MADIrishGunner @ Feb 1 2021 01:18pm)
when i first posted in this topic today i said i think i would be better serving the community by never posting my opinions, which pretty much sums up everything you've tried to say i need to be doing doesn't it? i wouldn't feel the need to mention the past if the past did not repeat itself so often with asylum, and even then, in my very first post here i mention that i planned on stopping, i was just getting shit off my chest because i was annoyed that even with the best interests of the entire community at heart, i still get shafted every time asylum is involved..


now since you seem to love to give advice by repeating stuff the person you are giving advice to has already said, i will give you some. if someone who was trying to do stuff for, and be a voice for community members who have been neglected in every single event for the last year plus by suggesting that we allow more beginner builds (something that actually does draw in more new players than all of these events that ban the use of every single first-lld build almost all first time llders build) decides to post that they are going to give up trying, there is literally zero need for you to pile shit on by dogging that person, they just said they are done. they are speaking their mind and moving on. they didn't post this stuff in the tourney topic or anything to be dramatic and try to sabbotage the event so there is no need to try and make them feel worse for trying to suggest doing something for everyone.


you could have just hosted and run a tourney for these voiceless noobies instead of posting.

imo if people want a tourney for their ladder hdins then u can run it and deal with the complaints about l8z and requests for refs. you'll have 1k fg from andy and 500 fg from me. so there's your prize pool, first prize should be about 2x the worth of the hdins in the tourney.
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Feb 1 2021 01:43pm
Quote (MADIrishGunner @ Feb 1 2021 11:38am)
if i am being honest i voted b-tier thinking it would have the same rules as the last b-tier with no xbow zon being the only change because that was how it was advertised. if i had voted s-tier it would have been 7 to 7, so please stfu.



the s-tier event will allow hdins and sorcs, i think we can both agree that most new players build 1 of the 2. there are some really great duelers who have yet to be able to take advantage of your charity in these events, people who deserve it.

i am not even talking about me. i'm talking about people like hyung who only plays zon and is pretty decent, deadman and sinxxx who are both amazing hdin players but dont wanna enter 30 events that don't allow din because they dont have fun on non hdin, whiteshadowmaster who only owns a sorc, jay and bt who have yet to enter a single event because they like the better characters because those are the characters they have invested the most into.. people like that.. who have never entered a single lld tourney but give their time every night in tvt, and play way more often than even you do. those people and the others i haven't mentioned, deserve to have a shot at having some fun instead of being told there is a tourney duel going on so tvt is shot for the night..

i'd appreciate if you pool man, i don't have hate for you i honestly feel like you hate me because of me discussing rules too much, it's not because i dislike you or your events, i have said multiple times the first b tier event was my favorite ever and that is counting the hundreds of hld events i have been a part of even. i understand what you are saying about s tier not being for everyone that's why i had the idea of only 1 stier char per team, so that none of the double s tier teams can be played, and it promotes more fun than priding.



Bro, everyone just wants you to stfu 🤣🤣🤣
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Feb 1 2021 01:51pm
Quote (thesnipa @ Feb 1 2021 02:41pm)
you could have just hosted and run a tourney for these voiceless noobies instead of posting.

imo if people want a tourney for their ladder hdins then u can run it and deal with the complaints about l8z and requests for refs. you'll have 1k fg from andy and 500 fg from me. so there's your prize pool, first prize should be about 2x the worth of the hdins in the tourney.


there have been and will always be noobies in any event, im not a dick or i could point out several in every event that has happened recently, if you honestly think hdin will be that prevalent when i just named 4 other players who would likely enter on non hdins and only 2 who will, then idk what to say man. i personally do not think that many hdins will join, it will be 1 s tier per team so all of the ppl who enjoy playing a-b-c tier chars can partner up with the ppl who dont have anything but s tier chars, making for a much larger event. it's not like hdin/barb, hdin/zon, hdin/sorc, sorc/barb, zon/sorc, zon/barb will be allowed or anything. shit won't get too crazy with those team combos being not allowed.

Quote (Avenged321 @ Feb 1 2021 02:43pm)
Bro, everyone just wants you to stfu 🤣🤣🤣


ft5 yugioh? lmk.
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Quote (MADIrishGunner @ Feb 1 2021 01:51pm)
there have been and will always be noobies in any event, im not a dick or i could point out several in every event that has happened recently, if you honestly think hdin will be that prevalent when i just named 4 other players who would likely enter on non hdins and only 2 who will, then idk what to say man. i personally do not think that many hdins will join, it will be 1 s tier per team so all of the ppl who enjoy playing a-b-c tier chars can partner up with the ppl who dont have anything but s tier chars, making for a much larger event. it's not like hdin/barb, hdin/zon, hdin/sorc, sorc/barb, zon/sorc, zon/barb will be allowed or anything. shit won't get too crazy with those team combos being not allowed.



ft5 yugioh? lmk.


i thought u meant S-tier 1v1

id personally never run that, its a fucking mess of drama and requires refs.

the whole idea behind b and c tier to me is to just handicap the whole field enough where even if its not fair on a matchup level that people can avoid the drama and just duel. i think thats the spirit behind it.

just as FPK tourney is less about perfect balance, and more about playing around to test and get people to migrate that may also catch the bug and join with a standard LLD.

the idea to me that fairness AND those goals can be accomplished is crazy to me. ive sat through too many 100 page long arguments about rules for 13+ years. never have i seen a balance of rules work out well. always people upset. the most fun turnouts end up being the wonky stuff where people are forced to leave the dick measuring alone.
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Feb 1 2021 01:59pm
Quote (MADIrishGunner @ Feb 1 2021 11:51am)
there have been and will always be noobies in any event, im not a dick or i could point out several in every event that has happened recently, if you honestly think hdin will be that prevalent when i just named 4 other players who would likely enter on non hdins and only 2 who will, then idk what to say man. i personally do not think that many hdins will join, it will be 1 s tier per team so all of the ppl who enjoy playing a-b-c tier chars can partner up with the ppl who dont have anything but s tier chars, making for a much larger event. it's not like hdin/barb, hdin/zon, hdin/sorc, sorc/barb, zon/sorc, zon/barb will be allowed or anything. shit won't get too crazy with those team combos being not allowed.



ft5 yugioh? lmk.



Remote duel, let’s go!
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Feb 1 2021 02:01pm
Quote (thesnipa @ Feb 1 2021 02:56pm)
i thought u meant S-tier 1v1

id personally never run that, its a fucking mess of drama and requires refs.

the whole idea behind b and c tier to me is to just handicap the whole field enough where even if its not fair on a matchup level that people can avoid the drama and just duel. i think thats the spirit behind it.

just as FPK tourney is less about perfect balance, and more about playing around to test and get people to migrate that may also catch the bug and join with a standard LLD.

the idea to me that fairness AND those goals can be accomplished is crazy to me. ive sat through too many 100 page long arguments about rules for 13+ years. never have i seen a balance of rules work out well. always people upset. the most fun turnouts end up being the wonky stuff where people are forced to leave the dick measuring alone.


no i agree 100% on 1v1 s-tier, that turns into a pride fest every single time.

the idea was for 1 s tier plus 1 non s tier 2v2 tourney. to combine the 2 sides of the coin. the ppl who dont wanna pride and just wanna have fun, and the people who either want to pride (there is currently less of these ppl on east than i have ever witnessed there being in over a decade) or the people who simply don't own anything that isn't s-tier and basic like zon hdin sorc barb users.

i feel like even if some priders fall through the cracks they will be partnered up almost certainly with someone who isn't and this can balance things out, ya know?

also ontop of that, the people who MIGHT end up being priders, will be less of a problem in a 2v2 tourney than a 1v1 because the right non s-tier team mate, can be the tipping point and deciding factor in a 2v2, more now than ever before because literally none of the top 10-15 llders on east atm are priders at all.

This post was edited by MADIrishGunner on Feb 1 2021 02:04pm
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Feb 1 2021 02:14pm
Quote (MADIrishGunner @ Feb 1 2021 03:01pm)
no i agree 100% on 1v1 s-tier, that turns into a pride fest every single time.

the idea was for 1 s tier plus 1 non s tier 2v2 tourney. to combine the 2 sides of the coin. the ppl who dont wanna pride and just wanna have fun, and the people who either want to pride (there is currently less of these ppl on east than i have ever witnessed there being in over a decade) or the people who simply don't own anything that isn't s-tier and basic like zon hdin sorc barb users.

i feel like even if some priders fall through the cracks they will be partnered up almost certainly with someone who isn't and this can balance things out, ya know?

also ontop of that, the people who MIGHT end up being priders, will be less of a problem in a 2v2 tourney than a 1v1 because the right non s-tier team mate, can be the tipping point and deciding factor in a 2v2, more now than ever before because literally none of the top 10-15 llders on east atm are priders at all.


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Feb 1 2021 02:23pm
Quote (CloudMD @ Feb 1 2021 02:14pm)
yes I am


lol ok #16 nice try
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