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Jan 29 2021 01:43pm
Quote (ferdia @ Jan 29 2021 02:26pm)
i have had little or no input on the 30 rules, you all should remember that i was the 49 person, not the 30 person. the fact remains that the 49 rules, and the 30 rules by others, were modified over the years to promote balance. The 49 rules are to my mind balanced noting the results are a record to show that each class can win a tournament. At 30 on euro, ctc amp and kb have never been allowed. east has always had far more lld'ers then eu, but you have not had tournaments over there and the emphasis has not been on balance but rather on making a character as strong as possible. The running mantra for years has been lol euro with its bible of rules, but its that bible of rules that gives classes a realistic chance of getting a result.

As stated in previous 1v1 tournaments, if players dont like these rules, they can agree between themselves to compete either in a different environment or with different rules, provided both players agree. the rules are for those players that either cant agree or simply bm, in which case the rules are used as an effort to enforce some degree of fairness/balance. are the rules perfect ? no. but very few things in life are perfect.

strong barbarian (w/o teleport) players have consistly performed @ eu, and back in the day they existed on east, and west. just because its not to your conformity does not mean that it is bad.



Maximizing builds to their limits and letting them fall into general tiers doesn’t make it unbalanced, every person in each tvt has a sense of what a balanced matchup would be based on who is in the game and what character they are playing, sure not every tvt is flooded with low tier chars but they still pop up and things even out. Rather than run a tournament with a fireball and a fury druid both competing for first, we would rather separate them into different tournaments because there is no set of bible rules that would even that matchup without teleing on a sorc, which is basically calling it a b tier tournament and you’d be doing exactly what we are at that point, but with no expanded parameters in the general tvt. Not everybody is going to pride out with a cube full of staves that’s for tournament play, 48 teles be efficient and pay massively for your mistakes
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Quote (BrothaGoo @ Jan 29 2021 07:39pm)
:lol: Also, are we really acting like playing FRW barb takes any resemblance of skill?


words fail me. can some of my esteemed east fellows please help this gentleman, preferably via pm, he is after all a member of LIB and i do process a degree of sentiment.

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Quote (lld_mayhem @ Jan 29 2021 08:05pm)
They are definately much better if the pilot is good. Not many barb pilots are though to be honest.

I can picture ^DJ2v being stupid good on a tele barb though


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Quote (lld_mayhem @ Jan 29 2021 11:42am)
Your claim to fame is stealing a bmana and bumping up a zvz ladder because people had irl commitments :rofl:

Joe is a hero though. Ty for info



Don’t be jelly kid
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Quote (ferdia @ Jan 29 2021 02:49pm)
words fail me. can some of my esteemed east fellows please help this gentleman, preferably via pm, he is after all a member of LIB and i do process a degree of sentiment.


:D

Help me with what exactly ? Anyone worth a damn on east agrees with me! Keep on living in 2012 though and feel free to come to east whenever you want some gds
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Jan 29 2021 02:02pm
wait, i wont, i wont do it lol.
stop trying to make me betray the memory of LIB, OMG thats two topic's now!

This post was edited by ferdia on Jan 29 2021 02:03pm
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Quote (Avenged321 @ Jan 29 2021 01:32pm)
I guess it comes down to how many competent players has euro produced? 🤔


Harabec was taking ears all over east on EU ping. EU has plenty of killers.
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Jan 29 2021 02:08pm
Quote (thesnipa @ Jan 29 2021 09:04pm)
Harabec was taking ears all over east on EU ping. EU has plenty of killers.


Wouldn't expect anything less from the god of lld.

On a serious note eu have and has had better duellers than harabec as well. Nothing that can compare to the players from west tho ofc, they are well known across the realms

/e also thank god for another rule discussion, been warming up since the last one.

This post was edited by Skullflower on Jan 29 2021 02:10pm
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Jan 29 2021 02:12pm
i didnt change anything really... was not expecting this ... :mellow:
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Quote (Skullflower @ Jan 29 2021 02:08pm)
Wouldn't expect anything less from the god of lld.

On a serious note eu have and has had better duellers than harabec as well. Nothing that can compare to the players from west tho ofc, they are well known across the realms

/e also thank god for another rule discussion, been warming up since the last one.


indeed, harabec, addesmile, and twinsen stand out to me. but if the bar is simply "competent" the list is super long. EU has always had a good talent pool. its only when they come to East on shares and struggle with ping people laugh, but dont dare go to EU and find out that latency is no joke.
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