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Aug 30 2019 11:54am
Quote (thesnipa @ Aug 30 2019 11:47am)
is there and advantage to C over B specifically that you are basing that on? i'm basing my stance on build diversity, specifically how it's much easier to limit res only. with no FOH limit someone could use different gear swaps. with your limit they need a token every time to mess with hard pts to Foh most likely.


Elaborate the gear swaps, and the positive properties for foh in vtpk lld.

No foh limit meaning people would have to stack res and apply different builds to counter foh. We dont want that to be essentially the case. Countering a build vs skill on skill or fair dueling would be much more rewarding to new comers and already existing V/t players.

Diversity is limited due to the ability to abuse a few builds.
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Aug 30 2019 11:58am
Quote (danzeva @ Aug 30 2019 01:54pm)
Elaborate the gear swaps, and the positive properties for foh in vtpk lld.

No foh limit meaning people would have to stack res and apply different builds to counter foh. We dont want that to be essentially the case. Countering a build vs skill on skill or fair dueling would be much more rewarding to new comers and already existing V/t players.

Diversity is limited due to the ability to abuse a few builds.


Skill vs skill?

Oh dear you are confused. Non-tele smite vs smite is about as mindless as it gets.

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Aug 30 2019 12:00pm
Quote (SuperButt420 @ Aug 30 2019 11:53am)
The people replying to you have made vt before

The people who replied to your thread who currently have a vt said they don't like your ladder idea

You're at page 11 and nobody here has expressed interest in joining your ladder

I hope you like testing with Jack because thats as far as this is going to go.


Read the warning sign bro, page 1 very top. Trust me you cant miss it.

All the vt owners are honeslty just waiting for the actual release and none of them have disagreed to joining.

Never seen one say they dont like the idea, but you just proved how much of a failed abortion you are. Keep it up :thumbsup:
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Aug 30 2019 12:01pm
Personally, just play to play. Make the ladder, ft5, call it a day.

No slow%
No hybrids.
Light res capped at XX.


See who comes out #1.

I dont see the point in restricting gear and damage. Imo, restricting FoH dmg and reducing the amount of Sols/Flat DR, you're encouraging smite v smite, not vtpk.

Most vtpks, if not all, have the same gear setups minus the weapon. Some may or may not have additional skills on their scepters like meditation, etc and may use a flail over a scepter, but that's their personal choice.

But this is just my opinion. Hope you can make a successful vtpk ladder. Gl!
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Aug 30 2019 12:02pm
Quote (danzeva @ Aug 30 2019 02:00pm)
Read the warning sign bro, page 1 very top. Trust me you cant miss it.

All the vt owners are honeslty just waiting for the actual release and none of them have disagreed to joining.

Never seen one say they dont like the idea, but you just proved how much of a failed abortion you are. Keep it up :thumbsup:


Guy you talk a lot of shit for someone who hasn't learned how to play after all these years

Wouldn't be surprised to see you lose 0-5 to an actual abortion
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Aug 30 2019 12:05pm
Quote (SuperButt420 @ Aug 30 2019 12:02pm)
Guy you talk a lot of shit for someone who hasn't learned how to play after all these years

Wouldn't be surprised to see you lose 0-5 to an actual abortion


Hmm is that a challange? Make a V/t hmmm?? No?Wonder why.... :rofl:

This post was edited by danzeva on Aug 30 2019 12:06pm
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Aug 30 2019 12:06pm
Quote (danzeva @ Aug 30 2019 12:54pm)
Elaborate the gear swaps, and the positive properties for foh in vtpk lld.

No foh limit meaning people would have to stack res and apply different builds to counter foh. We dont want that to be essentially the case. Countering a build vs skill on skill or fair dueling would be much more rewarding to new comers and already existing V/t players.

Diversity is limited due to the ability to abuse a few builds.


2 off circ (for smite fant bp) vs 2 pcomb circ vs pcrown vs no skill helm.

vmagi/sshroud vs other armors

sojs vs other rings

2 off ammy vs 2 pcomb ammy vs 1 pal ammy

2 pcomb stick vs honor foh stick.


you wouldn't have to mess with your res at all dependant on the opponent. because if you limit only res everyone runs exactly that amount of res. it's then up to the player if they want to run more foh dmg vs that res amount (at the cost of smite dmg / dr / replife (stick over honor) / etc)

so like if i want to give up 10 replife on the foh side to do a bit more foh dmg with a magic stick it's on me to choose that. if i want to run a 2 off ammy to hit higher smite bp it means i'm doing less foh dmg than my opponent.

ALTHOUGH: now that i look at the skills calc it seems with foh at lvl 3 (no hard pt), +6 comb skills (2 ammy, 2 stick, 2 circ), 5 to all skills (spirit, 2x sojs, and sshroud) FOH dmg = 435 - 485

only with it hard pointed does it go to 465-515, and that would be perf dmg for lld unless im mistaken.

so why limit off 15 screen dmg?
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Aug 30 2019 12:08pm
Quote (Markhor @ Aug 30 2019 12:01pm)
Personally, just play to play. Make the ladder, ft5, call it a day.

No slow%
No hybrids.
Light res capped at XX.


See who comes out #1.

I dont see the point in restricting gear and damage. Imo, restricting FoH dmg and reducing the amount of Sols/Flat DR, you're encouraging smite v smite, not vtpk.

Most vtpks, if not all, have the same gear setups minus the weapon. Some may or may not have additional skills on their scepters like meditation, etc and may use a flail over a scepter, but that's their personal choice.

But this is just my opinion. Hope you can make a successful vtpk ladder. Gl!


I wish it was the simple but theres a few unfair exploits in vtpk that have been addressed and thanks bro, ill make sure to create a balanced and healthy league. (People get ladder confused too much)
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Aug 30 2019 12:08pm
I got a VT on ladder , thing is gonna cost a min of 1k to get me in game to duel me.

Lmk if you can ever come across some fg.
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Aug 30 2019 12:09pm
Quote (danzeva @ Aug 30 2019 02:08pm)
I wish it was the simple but theres a few unfair exploits in vtpk that have been addressed and thanks bro, ill make sure to create a balanced and healthy league. (People get ladder confused too much)


What exploits in vtpk lld are there?
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