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Jan 1 2011 10:39am
Quote (meitou @ 29 Dec 2010 19:35)
Very nice guide.

I read the last post and wanted to say something about tele barb. Then I read your strategy part. Well said about the barbs.

About vs tele druid though. I think if you keep running south and spearing up, never staying to cast more than one spear a time, you'll be fine vs chain lockers. Maybe a well played non-chainlocker would give you more trouble.

About the hammerdin. I think a well played hammerdin really won't lose to a necro, assuming the necro won't use the skills generally considered "BM".


a good tele dude is on of the hardest duel for nec imo. as for nvh, necs def the underdog although big spirit damage and a fg can go a long way. bm skills are irrelevant, i dont consider them an option.

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Jan 1 2011 12:42pm
Quote (meitou @ Dec 30 2010 09:22pm)
decrypify/bone prison/endless bone wall spamming or enclosing yourself

To clarify: I don't consider them BM. It's just what most people would compaint about.


man, you rly play by your own rules huh?

i remeber when u helped me by offering advice on mein sac nec but yu said recast is a must, and to grab a defensive merc..


no one plays like that tho

i nvr bought a merc, or recasted and i win most of my duels
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Jan 1 2011 02:39pm
Quote (meitou @ Dec 29 2010 06:35pm)
Very nice guide.

I read the last post and wanted to say something about tele barb. Then I read your strategy part. Well said about the barbs.

About vs tele druid though. I think if you keep running south and spearing up, never staying to cast more than one spear a time, you'll be fine vs chain lockers. Maybe a well played non-chainlocker would give you more trouble.

About the hammerdin. I think a well played hammerdin really won't lose to a necro, assuming the necro won't use the skills generally considered "BM".


anyone decent on any kind of teleport character which involves chaining knows that doing it 100% of the time is a bad idea anyway

not that you would be expected to know that but yeah
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Jan 1 2011 05:15pm
Quote (bjcummings @ Jan 1 2011 01:42pm)
man, you rly play by your own rules huh?

i remeber when u helped me by offering advice on mein sac nec but yu said recast is a must, and to grab a defensive merc..


no one plays like that tho

i nvr bought a merc, or recasted and i win most of my duels


I think you misunderstood me. When I say I don't consider them "BM", I meant that I don't mind people using them against me. Although I myself have a decent necro, I barely plays it, and when I do, for most the duels I don't use these "BM" skills simply because it's just too much hassle to deal with the complaints from the noobs.

About your necro. If you are geared up decent, sure you will win most of the duels without recasting or a merc. But you will constantly lose to equally well geared sac din or jab. Also, you will lose to my necro, for example, if I recast and you don't.

And, hi clanbk you little shit.
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Jan 1 2011 05:34pm
Quote (meitou @ Jan 1 2011 06:15pm)
I think you misunderstood me. When I say I don't consider them "BM", I meant that I don't mind people using them against me. Although I myself have a decent necro, I barely plays it, and when I do, for most the duels I don't use these "BM" skills simply because it's just too much hassle to deal with the complaints from the noobs.

About your necro. If you are geared up decent, sure you will win most of the duels without recasting or a merc. But you will constantly lose to equally well geared sac din or jab. Also, you will lose to my necro, for example, if I recast and you don't.

And, hi clanbk you little shit.


it wont be complaints from noobs, it's complaints from elders that rly need consideration

and yah it would take a rlly nicely geard char of a better class to beat my sac nec, and thats fine.. thats the sacrifice u make when using an underpowered but sexier char.. no pun intended :P

@ bolded.. y would u recast bone armor in a snec v snec duel.. ofc yu'd win in that situation becuz i wont recast

necros can nvr recast... i've been dueling gm for 10 years 9 of them hld tho.. but never has recast been very acceptable

if u rly think recast is gm, you'd never lose...
recast will ez a low dmg build like a jabber cuz u can keep barm up allday, a char with high max dmg and godly AR might be able to put enuf max to knock your armor away and take chunks of life too

i just dont understand why you gotta play by rules only u think are fair..

personally i have no prob w/ u, but i rly dont understrand your though processes in gm/bm rules

i've read multiple posts that shows your defiance for what is deemed socially ascceptable..

this is an occasion where conforming is a positive..
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Jan 1 2011 06:10pm
Quote (bjcummings @ Jan 1 2011 06:34pm)
it wont be complaints from noobs, it's complaints from elders that rly need consideration

and yah it would take a rlly nicely geard char of a better class to beat my sac nec, and thats fine.. thats the sacrifice u make when using an underpowered but sexier char.. no pun intended :P

@ bolded.. y would u recast bone armor in a snec v snec duel.. ofc yu'd win in that situation becuz i wont recast

necros can nvr recast... i've been dueling gm for 10 years 9 of them hld tho.. but never has recast been very acceptable

if u rly think recast is gm, you'd never lose...
recast will ez a low dmg build like a jabber cuz u can keep barm up allday, a char with high max dmg and godly AR might be able to put enuf max to knock your armor away and take chunks of life too

i just dont understand why you gotta play by rules only u think are fair..

personally i have no prob w/ u, but i rly dont understrand your though processes in gm/bm rules

i've read multiple posts that shows your defiance for what is deemed socially ascceptable..

this is an occasion where conforming is a positive..


The BM/GM issue is an old topic and there really isn't a standard that everybody agree upon. But let's not ruin mike's guide by the blahblahba.

BTW, I would be very happy if I was deemed JSP socially unacceptable, in general. Just look around.
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Jan 1 2011 06:21pm

Meitou Rules:
Any Skill is Gm.
Any pot that is not HP is Gm.
Any item is Gm
Recasting any skill that gives you a big advantage is Gm.

You Must Join a TvT and instantly afk.
You Must Join 9-30 and instantly afk.


There is a balance though, he doesnt bitch if you play by his rules.
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Jan 1 2011 07:19pm
Quote (bjcummings @ Jan 1 2011 06:34pm)
necros can nvr recast... i've been dueling gm for 10 years 9 of them hld tho.. but never has recast been very acceptable


are you saying recasting has never been acceptable in hld? that's not true lol
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Jan 1 2011 08:46pm
Quote (GoodFun @ Jan 1 2011 08:19pm)
are you saying recasting has never been acceptable in hld? that's not true lol


its true in gm duels vrs phsycial chars

you should never recast bone armor..

get some dr if u got problems

a ber'd SS max block switch its more than enough to not recast.. you shouldnt even be hit more than 2-3 times if yur a good defensive nec
recast isnt widely known ad bm in hld, most dont care..

@ meitou i forgot to mention mana pots, i remeber reading your pvp ladder u setup but you allowed mana pots on your baba and no one else does that

mana pots is the ultimate bm imo
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Jan 1 2011 08:48pm
Quote (bjcummings @ Jan 1 2011 09:46pm)
its true in gm duels vrs phsycial chars

you should never recast bone armor..

get some dr if u got problems

a ber'd SS max block switch its more than enough to not recast.. you shouldnt even be hit more than 2-3 times if yur a good defensive nec
recast isnt widely known ad bm in hld, most dont care..

@ meitou i forgot to mention mana pots, i remeber reading your pvp ladder u setup but you allowed mana pots on your baba and no one else does that

mana pots is the ultimate bm imo


ba recast is gm in hld idiot
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