if you can't hurt me with foh and you're likely to synch smite me i'm going to throw more hammers. if you're chasing im likely to throw hammers.

foh is hammer defense, u can chip better off the edge of their screen.

what would max foh dmg be? and how much pvp dmg difference is there between that amount and 500 limit?

if it's not much why limit playstyle? because that's what limiting foh does. there's a theoretical best way to pilot a v/t, limiting foh dmg alters that.

i realize that there is an foh dmg limit in hld vtpk, but hld foh is far more strong than lld foh.

This post was edited by thesnipa on Aug 30 2019 11:00am

Wtf is this idea you think 500 foh dmg additional to conviction isn't enough vs 110 light res leaving you with 35 lr vs lvl 9 conviction. Honestly you think it does no dmg...this...has...been...tested...Unless you want people just fohing around more then any thing.

This post was edited by danzeva on Aug 30 2019 11:08am

if you're going to limit res that much, then maybe it's ok.

my point is that in HLD foh is far more naturally effective, given they have tele and the ability to chainlock. so they do a decent % of dmg during the duel with foh. that's why it's limited to 7k dmg, because it's incredibly effective. in LLD it's comparatively WAY less effective, so limiting the dmg you can do with foh doesnt follow the same logic as in HLD.

also limiting it to 500 dmg pretty much guarantees everyone will have max. which limits build originality some. i think people should have the choice of wearing different helms, different ammys, etc based on how much foh dmg they want to do.

i think the res should be capped, and foh dmg should be unlimited. at just a blank guess something like 130ish light res and max foh. taking the same pvp dmg you're working with now and taking out the foh dmg limit.

Idc if every one reaches 500 foh dmg (we welcome this). We are provided an abundant amount of different gear swaps for lld and especially for v/t.

A res cap and foh cap allow for a standard amount of dmg in general , nothing more to it man.

This post was edited by danzeva on Aug 30 2019 11:31am

hopefully weed makes you less defensive. i said i have an issue with one rule out of what? 40?

if you're not open to suggestions why make a thread? create w/e ladder u want in your rules and be done with it.

Bruh...really I explained it like 4 times...weed makes me able to tolerate people like you yes...open to suggestions all day..... you ask about some thing I have already answered. Its like the only way to even help you understand would be to show you in game.

130 lr sounds like a good number will be testing this out later today, thanks for you feed back

Some times I cant tell if you're just trolling or actually attempting to be helpful....

This post was edited by danzeva on Aug 30 2019 11:36am

let me make is as simple as i can then, since you're still very defensive.

X = target pvp foh dmg

X can be achieved by:

a. limiting FOH dmg only
b. limiting res stack only
c. limiting rest stack and FOH dmg

i think b is best, we both agree a isn't best, you think c is best.

b leaves more build options open for more gear and builds, u can run up to max foh dmg, or less if you choose. limiting only res is far easier, you can manipulate anya quests, and especially res charms since max/ar/lifers are banned.

c means everyone runs the same foh dmg and the same res.

This post was edited by thesnipa on Aug 30 2019 11:38am

I'd like to see the opinions of other vt users at this point to make a clear assessment regarding your selections

Its obvious my answer would be C though

This post was edited by danzeva on Aug 30 2019 11:45am

is there and advantage to C over B specifically that you are basing that on? i'm basing my stance on build diversity, specifically how it's much easier to limit res only. with no FOH limit someone could use different gear swaps. with your limit they need a token every time to mess with hard pts to Foh most likely.

The people replying to you have made vt before

The people who replied to your thread who currently have a vt said they don't like your ladder idea

You're at page 11 and nobody here has expressed interest in joining your ladder

I hope you like testing with Jack because thats as far as this is going to go.