ill improve a bit more and repost. i doubt i can win though. any thoughts?

only 1
might be better off knocking effective def down <800 (4 eth runes = -50% in pvp),
whats ur stats like with 2 ba? we never even tried that?

cost u 4 jewel slots, but gains cth
i have not done the math though. just adjust ur avg dmg and cth withthe above calc though.

also the azure is a crystal sword saves 12 stats. 36life.(though mei is at 75 strength)
dont know the setup either, id like a look at it sometime
u would need 1 of the following (min+max rare jewel with -15% in the ws with 8life, squezzing out better stats to compete. to get that ws down to 46 to save more stats and squeeze out another 20-40 life



This post was edited by Jerkazoid on Jan 20 2009 04:09pm

my ar goes to 2660 with 124-1338 dmg... i dont think its as good.

i gotta get myself a 65ed/121ar aerin with 10-15%ed lol

i never said it was useless

its just that with evenly matched chars luck will prevail. most top notch zealots are in this category

you can just as easily 5-0 someone then lose 0-5

the retort is a broad answer to others who could fail at statistics, not quite directly @ you.

ba is not better star, nor is 2 eth runes, they both drop the dps about 2

are u using def/life sc's??

since ur at about 470%ed a 3zeal/3conc ws will give u another 3% final dmg

imn trying to figure it out

not using cow kings bc he didnt mention fire dmg. nor twitch, hes 30ias crystal sword
142 stats
prob sigons boots + gloves + belt for def

so thats 22 pnts from jewels imo. if i did all that right,, oh wait i forget to accoutn for sig gloves? 12 stats?

This post was edited by Jerkazoid on Jan 20 2009 08:09pm

I made Hardy at least 1.5 years ago. At the time I didn't have most of my gears yet but I decided to build it this way. I think I did quite extensive calculations before deciding on the build. I can't find the file now but I think my conclusion was that this is the best possible 18 zeal build. I'll be happy to be proven wrong though.

This post was edited by meitou on Jan 20 2009 09:25pm

possible? well thats a different story though
<cracks knuckles> possible would bring into play perfection of the most insane items, is that what we are talking about?

perfection is; 8-14 rare jewels, 6dex,4str, 14 max jewel, 4str -15%, 14 max or 6dex, -15%, 14max


helm
15% sup crown (3x 4strength, 14max, -15% rare jewels)
-45% reqs = 30 strength req
+42max
+12 strength

also def vs smiter or some type of caster is useless.. so in that case im thinking

18sac, 7zeal, 1might, 1ba, 1conc, 1def

with
15% 3zeal/3conc/3def war scepter (At ilvl 25-36, you can get 2nd-5th tier. ilvl 26-40 = 5os ws) perhaps 3charge is better* <shrug>
-30% reqs = 38 strength req
+20strength
+18dex
+70max

15% 4os ancient
-30% reqs = 70 strength
8-56max
+8 life
+18 dex

sigons gloves + boots + belt

all 8def/15life sc's

15% crown shld(55%block) 65%ed +12x ar
32-56max dmg

angelics

strength base [25] +5 hard points, = 30 crown on +12 = 42, ws on +20 = 62, sigons gloves on = 72
dex base [20] angelics on +10 = 30, ws18 +armor18 = 66 (= 75% block on crown55% at lvl 18)

stats = 15 rush + 17*5 = 100
- 5 for strength
= 95 stats for vit = 285

base 55 life + 34 lvl 17 + 115 angelics trio +60 quest + 286vit = 549
+600 sc's
+8 from 1 jewel in armor
+20 sig belt

= 1177 life

def with gear and dex = 564
8def /15life sc's = 884 defense total

defiance slvl 1 (+3) + 7(+3)zeal(18sac) 1ba = 1768 def +105%ar +zeal252%ed +65%shield +62%strength
conc slvl 1 (+3) + 7(+3)zeal(18sac) 1ba = 105%ar +zeal252%ed +105%conc +65%shield +62%strength

total +dmgs

42max helm
8-56 armor
70max weapon +ws base 15%11-19
32-56 shield

= 51-243

with 1177 life

defiance 1768def dmg = 379% 244-1163 = avg 703.5 (120pvp)
conc dmg 564def dmg = 484% 297-1419 = avg 858 (145pvp)
*if +3 charge (instead of +3 defiance) then charge 3(150%) +conc (564 def) = 80%ar +382%ed dmg = 245-1171 = 708avg (120pvp) (edit missed the shield/strength on this)

30ias WS = 6/6/6/6/10 (3.57 attack/sec)


this is more then enough for now,, and besides how the hell could anyone gather all the jewels!!?
but "possible" is what it is.

i suppose for the azure setup u could drop some str/-15% jewels for more 8-14's but u also loose 4 slots on weapon and the +9skill pnt potential

This post was edited by Jerkazoid on Jan 20 2009 11:55pm

ear_god's level 15 had similar stats to that... about 100 less max damage, but 300 more defense

i'd say there's lots of room for improvement

do u have sigs belt? do u have cbf? i forgot to account for that. my 15life/1-2 cold dmg sc could help my situation as well..

who cares tho we'll never duel and itll never be possible to figure out all the different possible situations...

/close thread.

although... Jerk yes i have 32 15life/def scs atm and only 8x 15life/ar scs. would it be worth getting rid of the def scs for the ar scs? im assuming so if they were 10-12ar's but... you never know

Against a defense build, I think you should use the AR Sc's for sure. They'll help more than the def sc's will.