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Aug 3 2022 11:05pm
Quote (suhduelerz @ Aug 3 2022 10:01pm)
What makes charge/zeal good in d2r? I thought you needed the desynch to catch people.


Deaync was never required to catch, only to be harder to detect/be hit

And im pretty sure when charge lands whether its blocked or not, it forces a kb/fhr so i think zeal could get a hit in before they can move out of range
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Aug 4 2022 09:47am
Quote (Haseo @ Aug 3 2022 10:05pm)
Deaync was never required to catch, only to be harder to detect/be hit

And im pretty sure when charge lands whether its blocked or not, it forces a kb/fhr so i think zeal could get a hit in before they can move out of range


I only tried it once I became a boomer, so it makes sense I couldn't do it right without desynch lol.
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Aug 4 2022 10:34am
Quote (suhduelerz @ 4 Aug 2022 11:47)
I only tried it once I became a boomer, so it makes sense I couldn't do it right without desynch lol.


One cannot shift from non-boomer to boomer. Generational nicknames are assigned based on date of birth.
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Aug 4 2022 10:36am
Quote (Belarathon @ Aug 4 2022 09:34am)
One cannot shift from non-boomer to boomer. Generational nicknames are assigned based on date of birth.


While true, the intent of the word can change. Although I do not classify as a boomer by age I meet the intentions of the word.
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Aug 4 2022 11:20am
Quote (MADIrishGunner @ Aug 3 2022 10:35am)
zeal charge on d2r is also very strong.

as are toolkit dins, or swiss army knives as i call em.



nah you can introduce charge dmg and it works brilliantly tbh, just dont care for crap about how much foh dmg you have, i would put 0 pts in holy shock tbh, id go pure hammer/charge and just make sure ive got a foh/conv/medi scepter on swap.

as long as your opponent has GM liferep, even low foh dmg will chip away 10-20 at a time or some crap which trust me, goes a very long way. then you are also not sacrificing much if anything in order to have that foh but maintain the charge and hammer dmg you would normally see on one.

it's not really "mass str" either with divine, ur just going what, 30-35 str pts higher? you wont lose much life at all. plus thats the ideal weapon anyways, you want that dmg. only thing better would be an eth rep rare high ed with all the perfect skills and that will probly never exist.


zeal/charge was very strong in d2 lod as well, so if it's better in d2r it should be fantastic.

I think that's why chum said "pure mage". In your example it's simply a libby with a foh stick imo.

I have also played mage in lld and thought it worked great as well, it's viable for sure. iirc i used the same build that chum is talking about.
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Aug 4 2022 05:01pm
Quote (thesnipa @ Aug 3 2022 04:00pm)
2 things i see:

1. chum was i believe saying u cant have high charge dmg, high foh dmg AND high hammer dmg. u have to pick 2, which u agree with in saying go hammer/charge with tickle foh.

2. divine requires 103 str, war scepter 55 using eth frosties as well. so unless im forgetting a piece the str gap is 48 assuming not using tearhaunch or something. bit higher than 30-35 but not insanely higher. at that point tho many might want to have a setup for part insight as well.


correct, tearhaunch is ur boots..

didnt seem like that is exactly what chum was saying, but i gave the info i had that i know is pretty accurate from having competed multiple times in d2r events.
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Aug 4 2022 05:48pm
Quote (suhduelerz @ 4 Aug 2022 12:36)
While true, the intent of the word can change. Although I do not classify as a boomer by age I meet the intentions of the word.


Must be a regional thing, where I’m from generational nicknames are still about the generation a person was born in, as intended.
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Aug 5 2022 07:26am
Quote (MADIrishGunner @ Aug 4 2022 06:01pm)
correct, tearhaunch is ur boots..

didnt seem like that is exactly what chum was saying, but i gave the info i had that i know is pretty accurate from having competed multiple times in d2r events.


is hard pt prayer banned in d2r as well?
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Aug 5 2022 10:54am
Quote (Belarathon @ Aug 4 2022 05:48pm)
Must be a regional thing, where I’m from generational nicknames are still about the generation a person was born in, as intended.


Ok boomer
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Quote (thesnipa @ Aug 5 2022 09:26am)
is hard pt prayer banned in d2r as well?


yes
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