My main question is will u play more 1v1 or tvt. ph sin in tvt is np, even with high fcr. ph sin in 1v1 is so fucking annoying lol.

also, might not want to listen to me, i hate 18 kickers lol

This post was edited by thesnipa on Mar 24 2020 12:06pm

I've been playing ph hybrids off and on since LOD rolled out. I even wrote a guide about it, which is still fairly accurate (athough i have made a few upgrades over time). From experience, 102% fcr ph and kick is superior to 65% and blade fury.

Heres why:

1) Blade fury dam will be low (as will your attack rating) unless you support it (at the cost of mana. And ph is really mana hungry)


2) when you want a ranged attack, ph is just better at filling that criteria as opposed to a low dam fury blast (which can miss/be blocked/has much less reach than ph)

3) kick damage is all crushing blow, which is primarily used vs chargers (trying to charge away) or high life chars like druids. When your opponents are too close for you to spam ph, they are also too close to spam a low damage fury.


4) You are a support/control char. 102% fcr and like 80% chance to kb is just hard to beat in the support role. If you want less of a support char, i would suggest full blade fury/kick build and toggle on/off lvl 1 ph on right click for shadow warrior to spam vs runners.

xD I'm surprised you needed to ask me that frank re the annoying part.

Sounds like going 105fcr pure is annoying but best results.

I just wanted it to be more fun.

Did you try going pure physical or your kick Frank, pure ele or both?
I didnt want to lose alot of str to gain kick dmg. I'm not overly bothered about a ton of kick dmg.

I guess wasting str to eq Greaves for this build would be a must if I go hybrid?
I also thought about cow kings and using 20 x 15/1-3 fire scs and 20 x 15/7 mana. Maybe getting perf ruby crushflange and having small physical/small fire dmg kick on switch.
Would be poop right?

Isn't 1-11 light better than 1-3 fire?

Yes but I have a load of them fire scs sold light ones ages ago. Haha.

yes but with cow kings having fire dmg already he's looking to stack that instead of light.

plus light always fails in the 1-xxx category, where many hits after res wont pierce mdr. and fire has lower max but on average actually pierces mdr.

plus u get 1-2 duels before they realize they need fire res huhu

Would like to 1v1 and tvt with it.

Had pure kick in the past but after going from trophy kicker to an average kicker I'd cry, each time I had to use the new kicker (old one has gone). Which is why I thought about kick/phy

The last sentence is what I was hoping for 😂

It is, but 15/7s are just better for a ph-centric build in general.




Its not worth the str investment. My ph/kick sin str glitches stealth bp and treads of cthon. 55% glitched frw + 35% in charms + 34% skill frw. That makes it hard to be name locked if you are chasing/evading someone.

Ok mate that helps. Ty