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Dmg looks better w/ sojs, I think I also got more mana w/ sojs than rates... the rares also didn’t give much of a life increase.



Sojs for bh/peace build and rares for honor/dmg plate build
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Dmg looks better w/ sojs, I think I also got more mana w/ sojs than rates... the rares also didn’t give much of a life increase.


most people use rares now adays to prevent any swapping except vs cold. (see charger). so that prevents using a bundle of scs that cost dmg for each one u have to load in. ar, critical in some tweener matchups and for low hard skilled zeal, rings can have as much as 15 stats. depending on your other gear flat mana can be sneaky good compared to %mana. and u can get min dmg on rings (whereas sojs sap your min hits).

i just dont think sojs are better in all setups, but will admit that many people build around sub-par quality rare rings that sojs would perform better than. if u dont have a pair of 5-6 mod rings dont bother, charger on an extreme budget and charger with anything but godly gear perform about the same. maybe with how shitty puddles are now even more mana is needed, and fhr might help too in the new meta.
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most people use rares now adays to prevent any swapping except vs cold. (see charger). so that prevents using a bundle of scs that cost dmg for each one u have to load in. ar, critical in some tweener matchups and for low hard skilled zeal, rings can have as much as 15 stats. depending on your other gear flat mana can be sneaky good compared to %mana. and u can get min dmg on rings (whereas sojs sap your min hits).

i just dont think sojs are better in all setups, but will admit that many people build around sub-par quality rare rings that sojs would perform better than. if u dont have a pair of 5-6 mod rings dont bother, charger on an extreme budget and charger with anything but godly gear perform about the same. maybe with how shitty puddles are now even more mana is needed, and fhr might help too in the new meta.



I had 5min/dual stat/mana/res rings... the on screen stats barely beat out sojs... I used like 10 tokens messing around w/ my charge lol

I’ll check if I have any s/s

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I had 5min/dual stat/mana/res rings... the on screen stats barely beat out sojs... I used like 10 tokens messing around w/ my charge lol


your min should be drastically bigger, unless im missing something. but your max is inflated by light dmg a bit that's not your true hit dmg.

boosted (dave) used a peace charger plenty on east nl with just basic shit and a tossed together inv of gcs/scs, and it did just fine.

i think the takeaway point is u can either spend 500 fg on a basic setup, or 40k on a best in slot setup, but anything inbetween you're wasting your fg. might as well build a cheapo peace charger.

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most people use rares now adays to prevent any swapping except vs cold. (see charger). so that prevents using a bundle of scs that cost dmg for each one u have to load in. ar, critical in some tweener matchups and for low hard skilled zeal, rings can have as much as 15 stats. depending on your other gear flat mana can be sneaky good compared to %mana. and u can get min dmg on rings (whereas sojs sap your min hits).

i just dont think sojs are better in all setups, but will admit that many people build around sub-par quality rare rings that sojs would perform better than. if u dont have a pair of 5-6 mod rings dont bother, charger on an extreme budget and charger with anything but godly gear perform about the same. maybe with how shitty puddles are now even more mana is needed, and fhr might help too in the new meta.


That's why I use spirit shield now. I needed the Mana and hell, I am still short of what I need. Iso 15/12 footballs!

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That's why I use spirit shield now. I needed the Mana and hell, I am still short of what I need. Iso 15/12 footballs!


spirit is the only shield to use ever! 4 os ones can be cute for like vs amazon or something, but even then a few misses and you're oooooom
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your min should be drastically bigger, unless im missing something. but your max is inflated by light dmg a bit that's not your true hit dmg.

boosted (dave) use a peace charger plenty on east nl with just basic shit and a tossed together inv of gcs/scs, and it did just fine.

i think the takeaway point is u can either spend 500 fg on a basic setup, or 40k on a best in slot setup, but anything inbetween you're wasting your fg. might as well build a cheapo peace charger.



I swap between multiple armors / setups ... gtoes, peace, bone snap.... every charger will perform the same... basically you 1 hit opponent or don’t lol
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spirit is the only shield to use ever! 4 os ones can be cute for like vs amazon or something, but even then a few misses and you're oooooom



As long as you have 400 mana and medi both sides you won’t run out of mana unless bad ^_^
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I swap between multiple armors / setups ... gtoes, peace, bone snap.... every charger will perform the same... basically you 1 hit opponent or don’t lol


Ya i understand what you mean, the max dmg will 1 hit anyone. im focusing on the min hits and how to get the most out of them. some setups min hit kill an average bowa, some don't. all max hit kill anything, cept maybe barb. then when u double the min hit from a crit the difference can be magnified. a min hit phys max hit light from sojs roll can be basically a tickle with some setups.

from a simple view the setup doesnt matter all that much, its only in the matchups where hits are few and far between that you come to love the effective minhits.

Quote (Belarathon @ Oct 3 2018 02:31pm)
As long as you have 400 mana and medi both sides you won’t run out of mana unless bad ^_^


therein lies the issue. i smoke a bowl and somehow my mind decides i should try to charge as close to puddles as i can (even if no ones on screen to see) for style points.

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