What Meegz1 said is 100% correct.

Shapers only have so much stash space so you need to decide what the aim of your character is - i.e. Either specifically for click and hold dueling [ popular in some sections ] or a FRW orientated build vs Ranged opponents. It is my view that Shapers are inferior to the other Click and Hold Classes [ primarily due to damage output and defence rating ] which is why I do not advocate that build, but that is my own preference.

The guide which mike_roch is referring to is : breakbeatz2 30 Fury Guide : http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=6081727 and any additions that I would make [ i write guides too ] would be so negligible that it does not warrant a new guide. i.e. the Guide from Breakbeatz2 is perfect.

To bluntly answer your question, SS IAS is not useless, it just does not work as one would have hoped. Whatever weapon type you have (and i am going to pretend its a -10 base type) unless it has 30ias and 2 sox and Eth Repl, it is far inferior to a Robo Naga (x6 Shael). i.e. a Druid not only needs IAS from the weapon, it also needs the weapon to have 2 sox at the bare minimum and the IAS to be 30, for the weapon to even be considered.

The minor points I could mention re: the guide [ based on my own experience of shapers] :

1. Never wear Sanders. use Str Bugged Rare boots. Use Goblin Toe for Click-and-Hold Duels [ i.e. vs Barb/Zeal/Smiter etc. ]. You have a realistic chance vs Sorc's/Libby's etc. when all FRW is bugged. This chance is greatly diminished when your have un-bugged FRW.
2. Wearing Rare Boots grants you an additional source of FHR and resistances. Thus, Anya + Boots = ~ 70 All res straight away. This should also remove the requirement for more then 1 Helmet, i.e. no lost damage [ that Helmet being a 5Fury Pelt ].
3. You could go for a lower FHR breakpoint [ 42? ] and use Crushing Blow Gloves, for instance, vs Libby.
4a. Weapons - Click and Hold - no FRW - Cutlass 30IAS 2 sox 165ed + CTC amp and soxed x2 Shael is the dream. its not realistic to get one so if you want a shaper, settle on a Robo.
4b. Weapons - vs Ranged - FRW based - It is not possible to get a Better Rare 1 handed weapon then the ones described [Robo]. Comparing a Rare Naga vs a Robo, 70ias vs 120ias - The Damage Boost is probably worth the lost attack frames but realistically you won't find this weapon anywhere, and even if you did, it would be on a barbarian. Also, there is no point considering any of the slower base weapon types as they are simply too slow.
4c. Weapons - vs ranged - FRW based - it is highly unlikely you can get a better rare 2 handed weapon then a Robo 4 Shael 2 Hel Grimscythe. it is theoretically possible to get a rare 2 handed better then a robo but it would need to be 30IAS base, 2 sox Grim Scythe and those mods alone are almost impossible to get, nevermind with - requirements and + ED and Eth Repl.


Below is based on Level 20 Werewolf.
Base Weapon Speed ; IAS ; Attack Rate
-10 Speed [ i.e. a Cutlass ] 70IAS; 4/4/4/4/7
0 Speed [ i.e. a Naga ] 120IAS; 4/4/4/4/6

Shapers do not have alot of options re: weapon type.

On a final note, making a shaper is a labour of love. I dont want to be negative but you should know that fury druids are at the bottom of the pecking order. It would be much easier to get results with a character costing less then one tenth of the price of a shaper.
a sorc costing 500fg will do better then a shaper costing 5000fg.

This post was edited by ferdia on Mar 11 2018 11:07am

Idk what his guide is, but nothing has really changed other than getting an amp cutlass...

Well he mostly played click n hold, but ferdia added pretty much all the missing info.

oh...

if i were to make a fury dudu for strictly casters (cause melee is aids) i'd use 2x robo scythes and just WSG everywhere... pow pow everyone.

Does that still work in wolf form? I've honestly never heard anyone try it.

i think we can all agree that shapers will never be #1. However, almost any build can do well in a team when built correctly and played well. On that basis:

in team duels, its Shield + 1 hander, All FRW bugged, and 2 hander [ Robo or better ] on switch. This works just fine without WSG [ provided you have enough frw ].
100FRW at minimum.

almost every llder on EU has dueled my shaper by now, and I would be surprised if anyone said it was not "viable". The only problem is that it needs insane devotion/commitment to be as good as it is.

This post was edited by ferdia on Mar 11 2018 12:09pm

yes it still works in wolf form... just no one really makes wolf druid for vs all...



only euros dont know how to spam the 'W' key.

whenever i see one in a game there's also meni of their ears in blood moor so thats how im familiar wit them
trying to chase ppl down and getting fked up
if u want to be a melee of this type.. zealer has better mobility and conc papa has better everything

This post was edited by DCSS on Mar 11 2018 12:12pm

they know how but they chose a long time ago not to. there is a difference!

conc barb is pretty much useless in team games (apart from BO), whereas fury is not.

This post was edited by ferdia on Mar 11 2018 12:12pm

Ok, I can see where this is going so, my final post on the topic:

The original question appears to be around IAS.

It best to use a Sorc FCR breakpoint to best illustrate the issues that shapers have in terms of reaching the fastest (=best) attack frame.
A Fire Sorc needs 105 (or 200!) FCR. This is attained by a whole host of items that all add up to this amount.

For a druid, all those items cannot be used. Only weapon IAS can be used [ with a very tiny IAS% transferring over from skill ]. so if the breakpoint is 120 IAS, then the weapon needs 120IAS. If the weapon has 20 IAS and is rare it can have 2 sox, or 60 IAS. thats 1/2 of what you need to reach the best (=fastest) attack frame.
It is for this reason that you want either a -10 speed weapon [ which only needs 70ias, but is limited to range 1 ] with 30ias and 2 sox or a robo with 6 shaels to reach 120ias.

This post was edited by ferdia on Mar 11 2018 12:19pm