I´ll make it short as i agree with what has been said already. thanks for the pm ferdia.

atleast 10 repl for ES, it makes no sense to hold it at 5. Vita sorcs as much as other classes

also i don't mind amp. bowas against sorcs or for shapers or whatever. i´d leave that to others, don't see a problem though.
i just don't like too much limitations of certain (rare) items so i tend towards allow it.



I agree with this. I don't mind "no prayer" for my libby as it holds liferep for palas within limits which i can understand. 1pt prayer is what kind of instant repl with medi ? 50+?

Basically any sort of repl could be abused, Twinsen is right. So i wouldn't mind if it is allowed yet don't abused and strictly limited with the other gear. Agree with thesnipa on palas being a char class where the player decides most about the "GM"ness then.

Franks advise with Barbs sounds reasonable, too. Tele staff for them vs sorcs, but no max res would make it more intense.
85res 25repl barbs vs no ES 5repl sorcs was the dumbest matchup existing.

Lvl 1 prayer on a 1skill hdin = 55ish life rep
With rep that high you don't even need conc, you can just keep medi on whenever your hp isn't full and wait it out.

I'm surprised people don't have a problem with that

You got a problem w/ hdins, then you have a problem w/ me.

it that only if hard point or even if its a skill on scepter i have been hearing isammy scepter has prayer on it with 25 rep on his hdin

It was banned for years, Adam was one of the only dins i knew for years that hard pt'd prayer on easy.

It wouldn't be an issue at all if it weren't for that damn vigor...



gotta be only hard pt, the only "behind the scenes" synergies that apply to ALL +skill gear are druid summon skills. and those were in the game before other classes got synergies at all.

This post was edited by thesnipa on Mar 9 2016 04:28pm

Was it really? Back when I was dueling with Enjoi353 and Jawn and the rest of them they all skilled it. Was so many years ago. They might have changed it eventually. I played a lot more ladder rather than nl back in the day though.

It would work without a hard point if you had a +prayer scepter but if he has a prayer scepter it must be garbage. ilvl would be too low to spawn anything good.

lol well the rules changed from tourney ot tourney back then. i was mostly giving you shit cuz when you're #1 hvh people tend to pull out any excuse they can even when you didnt get hit to use the rep. honeslty i remember people bitching most about hard pt medi rather than hard pt prayer. medi with shield out and spirit on was a nasty combo lol.

I still think it should be banned, hdin could use a nerf and even with low rep you can always avoid getting hit whenever you want to.



I'm a bit confused tho. So assuming he has a scepter with prayer, wouldnt that scepter also need to have medi? because i not he would wep swap to insight and the prayer goes away. and if he has medi hard pt'd he'd also have prayer pt'd.

This post was edited by thesnipa on Mar 9 2016 04:37pm

I hate tearhaunch myself. You can desynch without vigor anyways, but it helps in a lot of situations.

To be honest it got to the point where if you didn't want to duel me you didn't have to. I wasn't going to change my build for pub games and tvts that were happening lol.

there was a lot of difference in ladder and nl back then like you said. you could make a 50 base rep hdin on ladder and never get shit for it, NL you'd get nk'd endlessly.

the ladder crew were more about duels than rules back then, Bj, jerrybean, slug, myself, etc. then there were the serious NL guys who were building on ladder but didn't give a fuck about rules, jawn, darkempire, mikey, badguts, etc.

i think i remember that hdin tho, wasnt it names like machaveli or something?