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Oct 5 2021 09:31am
First of all, there is no where else to post this so I am posting this here. hopefully within the next 2 months D2R will have its own distinct sub forums, but until then, this is where I will post.

Right, so for those of you living under a rock, D2R is here. As I mentioned earlier in the year I will be hosting LLD and Later MLD Tournaments in D2R. The pla n is to host the first in December in "NonLadder".

There are 3 concerns as it stands:
1. Under supply of Items/Charms. I saw 1 good cold circlet, I think it was sniped for 2000fg+ (2/20/20/9dex/60mana) and 2 good Assassin 5 trap claws. I have also seen a few 3/xx/15's for sale (all the way up to 400fg each!) and 1 15/12. Other then that certain rares (circlets/amulets) are simply not seen yet.

2. WSG fixed. With WSG fixed, this is causing headaches at HLD in certain matchups. For LLD I will do some testing in the background and worst case scenario I will simply limit the total allowable FCR on an Assassin. I envisage being able to adapt other matchups relatively straight forwardly. (I understand there is a WW issue but broadly I dont see this as being too much of an issue noting Barb's with tele-staffs at 30 are already quite strong).

3. East vs Euro Rules. Most players do not like discussing rules ("my way or no way!"). I spoke to several players, I know no one is going to be 100% happy but at least for the tournaments that I host each class will be given the maximum chance to eek out a result between evenly matched players. The idea is that each class will have at least 1 build capable of winning a tournament (while accepting that in some cases its paper rock scissors with anti chars etc).

if you are reading this, and want to protest, be sure to post YOUR version of rules and we can scream and shout at each other for 2 months until I get something that I am happy with. (notice how I said I rather then we). In the meantime below is what I am leaning towards:

Amazon - cant wsg anymore. Balances certain matchups, making them more fair. tele staff on Java.
Assassin - MindBlast appears to be OP. Considering capping the max allowable FCR at 63% (will have to test this) or max allowable Mindblasts while namelocking (tempted to go with this one).
Barbarian - WW next delay? Noting Top End Barbs are monsters, I see this as balancing certain matchups.
Druid - Shaper is FUBAR. Consider allowing to lvl to 35. Desync no longer works, str bug no longer works. Tele Staff on Windy.
Necro - Tele Staff on Necro.
Paladin - No longer "dissapearadong". Not the end of the world. Skilled Medi remains banned.
Sorc - 65% block on Fire and Cold.

I will probably put a hard cap on FRW limits for Bowa (thinking 120) and adjust other builds/classes around this. Max 10 Repl on Sorc's, Max 15 on Ama/Assa and Max 20 on everything else is what I am leaning towards.

Again, I appreciate some people will not want these rules. I have no issues with players making their own rules and competing in their own bubble with those rules. I am simply trying to come up with a set of rules thats fair for each class.

This post was edited by ferdia on Oct 5 2021 10:01am
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Oct 5 2021 10:09am
namelock mb or normal right click mb will be hard to proove. Also with 63fcr she still cast very fast. I'd consider 1bp less than 63, but im not very experienced so just saying

setting assa max fcr at 42 for lld might be a good start for testing (no namelock restriction). It will also make rare fhr belts more usefull, they were pretty underrated/useless on classic d2

This post was edited by sasax on Oct 5 2021 10:15am
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Oct 5 2021 10:10am
at lld its not quite the same problems at HLD where you just flat out die, we will work something out in this regard.
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Oct 5 2021 10:15am
fuckin' charms T.T

im sad

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Oct 5 2021 10:25am
Agree with above. I just want to be annoying and ask one question..... is nl ww allowed? Does this still speed up barbs movement? Has anyone tested?
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Oct 5 2021 10:28am
These are weird rules for a pvm tournament
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Oct 5 2021 10:32am
i hereby suggest we just let this user make rules with no arguments allowed: https://forums.d2jsp.org/user.php?i=410171
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Oct 5 2021 10:41am
For now its looking like this with alot of stuff to be tested. (FRW Limits / Mind Blast etc).



This post was edited by ferdia on Oct 5 2021 10:48am
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Oct 5 2021 10:44am
Without tele sticks allowed for all, it's not even LLD!!! More like watered down noobie lld.
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Oct 5 2021 10:46am
upps, barb tele stick allowed. image updated.

im not allowing tele stick on bowa or sorc or pala, and stop falling off that bridge.

This post was edited by ferdia on Oct 5 2021 10:49am
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