any info would be great.

maybe some pointers on an " easy starter lld " or something

i never done lld but id like to try it out.

appreciate any help. thx

at the top, the sticky. "Guides"

there are different character brackets for lld. mainly 9, 12 (vlld), lvl 18, lvl 30

just check the guides for some ideas...

have you done any pvp before in general and if so which chars did you enjoy

i have a pvp v/t right now and nova sorc. i enjoyed both.

on the vt i always lean more towards the smite.. that seems to be my favorite.. idk if that's a thing in lld.

i just wanna try something new mostly.

Danzeva is about to cum in his pants.

There are some V/T in lld and they are okay but not that great compared to other options. But you could definitely play one if you enjoy it. Especially Charge/Smite would be even better. I think danzeva made a V/T guide you could follow that he will probably post here shortly.

If you enjoyed sorc in general, a great starter lld is FB sorc. Go with life/mana GCs instead of scs because they are a lot cheaper. Unless you can find life/mana scs cheap. ES/FB sorcs are slightly overpowered in LLD and also fairly cheap to make a starter one, so they are a great place to start for a new LLD. There should be some guides in the stickies for FBer but I'm not quite sure. They are very common so if you decide to build one just ask about it and anyone can help you there

I just saw that you said you want to try something new haha, woops. Well Hammerdin is another lld with an insane cost:power ratio. Could build one very cheap and if you know how to play din still do very well in TvTs. Barb/Zon are great, very godly and fun but also the two most expensive. Necros are fun but needs a lot of rare/hard to find pieces. Trapper I don't know, never played one but people seem to enjoy it. What else is there lol. Oh yeah windy druids. They are nice but I find them annoying to play tbh. Repairing teleport charged staff after every duel and constantly having to tele away and recast summons isn't much fun in my opinion.

This post was edited by Belarathon on Apr 12 2020 04:44pm

im interested in a zon maybe. that seems fun thanks for all that info tho. helps a lot.

charge/smite seems like id like it too tho. maybe just charger ? are they good?

This post was edited by Steve24 on Apr 12 2020 04:48pm

There are pure bowa zons, very well-rounded and nice in both tvt and 1vs1 but you will be a target in tvt. The jewels and charms for these are expensive AF.

Bowa/Poison jav hybrid. Possibly better than pure bowa in a tvt, more likely about equal. I like em because poison jav is the best weapon for anti-l8z. Sadly they are not as great for 1vs1s due to lower DPS and PLR.

Pure plague is boring to play imo, but the damage can be insane. Basically you slap +4 javs on both sides and get 28k psn jav or whatever and just run around moor shooting poison javs and running away. Meh.. It's fun for half an hour lol.

Charged strike zons are probably the weakest of the 4 but they are good enough. You'll want to stack massive FRW on one to do any damage. You can also use a teleport charged staff on swap but zons have terrible fcr bps. You can hit 48% fcr bp with ammy/staff/circ though, or 68% with vmagi/circ/staff

Just saw your edit about charger: yes, very good. They are excellent team players as they give auras to everyone and possibly just as importantly they can dispatch of enemy amazons fairly easily most of the time. I prefer Charge/Zeal combo (focus on charge) Others prefer Zeal/Charge with much more focus on zeal. Still others will prefer pure Charge or Charge/Smite. That'll really come down to your preferences.

This post was edited by Belarathon on Apr 12 2020 04:57pm

Charge smite is best version of any Paladin who uses smite

Haha X skill/Charge is the best version of any paladin who uses X skill.

Hahaha truth