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Working on a Charge/Zeal build and came across a few options and wondered what u guys found the better:

Glitched Lightplate's or Ck's ?
Twitchroe or Max Armor ?
Scepter or Cleg's?- Or even high dmg Rare Scepter/Hammer for charge?
Frw Circlet or non Frw/Dmg circlet? 3s mask ?

The build im going for will be more charger focused, not sure on current eu rules on palas atm, (Hi Seb, Frank?
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clegs ( 20 max & or P saph )
60 max crown
20 max twitch
80 max 65/121
death gloves
death belt
cks
angelics or rare amulet with mana + useful stats and rare mana melee rings

charms many options based on play style from 40x 15/7s to mixing in some 6/48/20s

Charge Namelock in charge vs charge and when you stop out zeal him ( im 1k zeal 2k+ charge ... 50% ds = 2k zeal 4k charge hitting max ias bps)

This post was edited by RPG5621 on Dec 15 2019 09:09am
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Quote (RPG5621 @ Dec 15 2019 04:07pm)
clegs ( 20 max & or P saph )
60 max crown
20 max twitch
80 max 65/121
death gloves
death belt
cks
angelics or rare amulet with mana + useful stats and rare mana melee rings

charms many options based on play style from 40x 15/7s to mixing in some 6/48/20s

Charge Namelock in charge vs charge and when you stop out zeal him ( im 1k zeal 2k+ charge ... 50% ds = 2k zeal 4k charge hitting max ias bps)


Mhm seems like this is the most popular choice, altho i would use rare jewelery 99% of the time, u need atleast 300 mana to be effective.
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Uhm iirc the current rules are charge without aura? not 100% sure tho.

Imo Twitch, clegs, ck, rare amu+ high ar/high mana rare rings (i feel like the ar u get from angelics isnt worth it compared to the mana/life from rares)

I use azure on mine but clegs is bis for 18 pala compared to any scepter/rare u can find im pretty sure.

I use a 3 sock crown but if u can find a rare circ with like 1 pcomb. life. mana. ar. 2 sock or some combination like that it would probably be better, pretty sure it would need 2 sock or insane adds tho.

I'd go for 300+ mana. Reached 310 with mine with rare amu+rings and 5x 6/48/20 gcs, rest 15/7s

e/ i went for a low str build with azure tho so i only have 43 str on mine. Could go for a gothic plate build with clegs as well, haven't tried it tho but i remember lee had one, can be strong especially if it's focused more around charge.

Could be worth trying around with at least if u feel like it, still think the twitch build is the strongest one overall tho.

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Mhm seems like this is the most popular choice, altho i would use rare jewelery 99% of the time, u need atleast 300 mana to be effective.


yea im about 860 ish life/300 ish mana
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Quote (Skullflower @ Dec 15 2019 04:23pm)
Uhm iirc the current rules are charge without aura? not 100% sure tho.

Imo Twitch, clegs, ck, rare amu+ high ar/high mana rare rings (i feel like the ar u get from angelics isnt worth it compared to the mana/life from rares)

I use azure on mine but clegs is bis for 18 pala compared to any scepter/rare u can find im pretty sure.

I use a 3 sock crown but if u can find a rare circ with like 1 pcomb. life. mana. ar. 2 sock or some combination like that it would probably be better, pretty sure it would need 2 sock or insane adds tho.

I'd go for 300+ mana. Reached 310 with mine with rare amu+rings and 5x 6/48/20 gcs, rest 15/7s

e/ i went for a low str build with azure tho so i only have 43 str on mine. Could go for a gothic plate build with clegs as well, haven't tried it tho but i remember lee had one, can be strong especially if it's focused more around charge.

Could be worth trying around with at least if u feel like it, still think the twitch build is the strongest one overall tho.


I was also pretty sure that might is only allowed as a passive boost to charge, but not as an aura while charging. You can keep it on during tvts to play the auradin role for zon support tho.
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Quote (Skullflower @ Dec 15 2019 04:23pm)
Uhm iirc the current rules are charge without aura? not 100% sure tho.

Imo Twitch, clegs, ck, rare amu+ high ar/high mana rare rings (i feel like the ar u get from angelics isnt worth it compared to the mana/life from rares)

I use azure on mine but clegs is bis for 18 pala compared to any scepter/rare u can find im pretty sure.

I use a 3 sock crown but if u can find a rare circ with like 1 pcomb. life. mana. ar. 2 sock or some combination like that it would probably be better, pretty sure it would need 2 sock or insane adds tho.

I'd go for 300+ mana. Reached 310 with mine with rare amu+rings and 5x 6/48/20 gcs, rest 15/7s

e/ i went for a low str build with azure tho so i only have 43 str on mine. Could go for a gothic plate build with clegs as well, haven't tried it tho but i remember lee had one, can be strong especially if it's focused more around charge.

Could be worth trying around with at least if u feel like it, still think the twitch build is the strongest one overall tho.



Yeah Charge without might aura is banned, u can use blessed aim or vigor though. Also the skill distribution was limited iirc?

Mhmm i remember that Lee prefered a gothic build and did really well with it too so made me wonder, iguess ill try to play around with it, but low strength build seem to be the better option i see.

For sure circlet needs to have to holes too but ye crown is hard to beat iguess..



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charge zeal or zeal charge?

if you have no intention of clicking and holding mainly, and only use zeal as a supplement to charge then I would go with an 80 max gothic. This will help a ton with clegs build since you cant use aura when charging. I'd shoot for 300 mana in tvt, maybe even up to 400 tbh. Use 5-8x 6/xx/20's and the rest 15/7's.

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Quote (IAmAsylum @ Dec 15 2019 08:00pm)
charge zeal or zeal charge?

if you have no intention of clicking and holding mainly, and only use zeal as a supplement to charge then I would go with an 80 max gothic. This will help a ton with clegs build since you cant use aura when charging. I'd shoot for 300 mana in tvt, maybe even up to 400 tbh. Use 5-8x 6/xx/20's and the rest 15/7's.


Lol ye mainly chargin, a few zealz ocasinally. Ye That's what i thought tbh, with those rules in place im missing out on alot of damage.
And Mana can be a bitch on a 18 pala if u are not good at perserving etc... Most ppl use an amp tspear with 4xeth shield on swap i feel.

This post was edited by TShaman on Dec 15 2019 01:33pm
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15max 20 mana jewels exist dont they?

might be a better option than losing gc's for mana scs

gain damage lose life though basically vs 3x15/7's + 20's = 1x 6/xx/20 + 15/20
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