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Nov 21 2018 02:01am
Hello people. Wanted to make an attempt at a less serious/more fun TvT char who still has potential to help out and do well. I've never made an assassin before (except lvl 9) so I need critiques. LMK what I could change!

Here's the skill layout I was going to use:
I am not sure how good/not good claw block is. With this setup she hits 46% claw block. If I took the 2 extra pts away from it I could also stat Blade Fury as a CB applicator, but I think it would have really low AR so probably not too useful...?


I was thinking these items, but they are not set in stone at all, this was just the first setup I thought of; looking for suggestions:

Weapon 1: 'Strength' Runeword Hand Scythe with +3 to Mind Blast and +X to Dragon Flight
Weapon 2: +5 to Mind Blast Hand Scythe (+2 shadow/+3 MB). I was thinking that a 6str/9dex/-15 jewel could work here to help me equip the 'Strength' claw - would that potentially create problems with picking up my corpse? :wacko:
Swap: tele staff usually, but I'll keep insight in stash
Armor: Vipermagi probably with ed/stats jewel or maybe Pskull
Helm: +2 MA or +1 sin/20fcr/30frw/75+ mana circlet (I need +2 MA on either my ammy or circlet to hit 5 kicks, can use +1 sin on the other) with Shael
Ammy: +2MA or +1 sin/75+ mana with the best mods I can get (life, repl, res all, stats)
Rings: fcr/75+ mana/stats/mods x2
Boots: Upgraded Goblin Toes
Belts: SoE/Deaths
Gloves: Bfist
Invent: Probably all 15/12, but maybe some frw/12 :unsure: If I don't end up with res anywhere on gear, I'd need 2x 15/5@ to max res.

The only really hard part will be the circlet, the rest I think I can track it down easily enough.

This would hit 1k+ life, 800+ mana, 65% fcr, 48% fhr, max trap laying speed, 3/3/3/3/8 kicks, 5+ second stun length on an 80 damage MB, 50% crushing blow, 46% claw block. FRW a little low at 49% from BoS + 30% from circ.

She would mostly be for applying that 5 second stun in TvT, holding people in place for DPS chars, and picking off low-life enemies easily with the unblockable 10+ pvp dmg MB. With 3 frame kicks and 50% cb, she could apply some pretty decent damage as well if a safe opportunity arose (if enemy was locked down in MB/WoF).

How about it? What should I change? I'm sure I've left out/neglected something obvious, and it's your job to tell me what it is!
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Nov 21 2018 02:14am
Tldr, what kinda sin?
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Nov 21 2018 02:19am
Hmm I think if ur main goal is for tvt and for stun...maybe forget MA skills all together and put in wof for stun...but then again u might become a max mb weaker wof trapper sin...but in terms of stun maybe that’s best
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Nov 21 2018 02:24am
Oops

This post was edited by Co99020 on Nov 21 2018 02:25am
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Nov 21 2018 02:26am
Quote (Co99020 @ 21 Nov 2018 04:19)
Hmm I think if ur main goal is for tvt and for stun...maybe forget MA skills all together and put in wof for stun...but then again u might become a max mb weaker wof trapper sin...but in terms of stun maybe that’s best


Adding more to wof would not increase the stun in any way whatsoever though :blink:
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Nov 21 2018 02:32am
If your aim is to stun, max mb rest in wof... will be a little dmg + cause fhr lock... no need for kick cause kick is aids... get 2shadow disc circ/amu , then look for 4wof/4mb claw or 5mb/3wof claw
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Nov 21 2018 02:33am
Quote (Belarathon @ Nov 21 2018 12:26am)
Adding more to wof would not increase the stun in any way whatsoever though :blink:



Adding more to wof would increase wof dmg to assist with stunning the opponent..in my opinion putting points in dragon talon and having to use that skilll would compromise your position in the tvt. Therefore having to get close to the target and making u have higher chance of getting hit 😂
Maybe for this stun sin having distance and hitting them with mb and wof would maybe better ur chances of being a stun sin for Tvt
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Nov 21 2018 02:38am
Quote (Avenged123 @ 21 Nov 2018 04:32)
If your aim is to stun, max mb rest in wof... will be a little dmg + cause fhr lock... no need for kick cause kick is aids... get 2shadow disc circ/amu , then look for 4wof/4mb claw or 5mb/3wof claw


Quote (Co99020 @ 21 Nov 2018 04:33)
Adding more to wof would increase wof dmg to assist with stunning the opponent..in my opinion putting points in dragon talon and having to use that skilll would compromise your position in the tvt. Therefore having to get close to the target and making u have higher chance of getting hit 😂
Maybe for this stun sin having distance and hitting them with mb and wof would maybe better ur chances of being a stun sin for Tvt


Once the stun swirls are on top of the enemy's head (from MB), any attack fhrs them... You don't need dmg on your WoF at all to stun... In fact I don't even think WoF can reach a high enough damage to fhr most chars in LLD without MB stun...

to be clear: lvl 1 wof or lvl 1000000 wof will both stun the exact same once the "stun swirl" is applied from MB ..

also, the 50% cb kicks is where the "fun part" comes in. Killing people with kick. My goal was to make something you don't usually see in tvts that can still do some damage and help out. Once someone is good with locking people down (like scipi is) I can imagine kicks being easy to land

This post was edited by Belarathon on Nov 21 2018 02:43am
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Nov 21 2018 02:45am
Yes your correct with the swirl above their head any attack will stun em...but compared to dragon talon, wof wouldn’t compromise your position having to get close. Also the firing rate of the wof trap is fast and will help stun the enemy in place. And putting more points into it would increase the damage it fires at the oponent lowering his hp for a better result. But that’s just my two cents if your goal is to be a stun sin for tvt. Not having to get close and mind blasting em with wof to assist with keeping them locked.
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Nov 21 2018 02:48am
Quote (Co99020 @ 21 Nov 2018 04:45)
Yes your correct with the swirl above their head any attack will stun em...but compared to dragon talon, wof wouldn’t compromise your position having to get close. Also the firing rate of the wof trap is fast and will help stun the enemy in place. And putting more points into it would increase the damage it fires at the oponent lowering his hp for a better result. But that’s just my two cents if your goal is to be a stun sin for tvt. Not having to get close and mind blasting em with wof to assist with keeping them locked.


Yeah not really looking to make a WoF sin. As stated multiple times, looking to make something you don't usually see. I would be focusing on locking people down with MB+ lvl 1 wof, then dflighting in to land a few CB kicks and then either teleing away or reapplying the stun + Wof to keep kicking.

I'm trying to make a Kick/MB, so I'd like advice on how I can improve my build as a Kick/MB sin, not just telling me to change to wof lol
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