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Oct 3 2018 11:36am
Hey Guys, ive just recently started making a lvl 30 lld charger and i need some gear tips,

I currently have,

Helm: +2 pcomb, 30ed, 53 life 1 soc circlet (with 24 max dmg in it)
Armor: Single Up'd Twitchthroe 1 soc (with 24 max dmg jewel)
Ammy: Angelics
Rings: Angelics

Here is where I have some questions:

1. I was thinking about using a 24 max dmg cleglaws sword with cleglaws gloves which will yield at lvl 30, a 80 dmg weapon with 50% deadly strike. Would this be an okay idea? (for one hand wep)
2. If I dont go the cleglaws set up, what Gloves / 1 hand wep should I go for?
3. Which kind of boots should I go for? Is 30/10 tri res the best option?
4. 24 max damage Rattlecage or Twitchthroe?
5. Best kind of shield for 1 hand charger? Was thinking 6X%ed 110+ar 4 soc shield with 4x 24 max dmg jewels in it
6. What belt should i use?

Any insight is greatly appreciated, let me know what you guys think!

This post was edited by Gbravo on Oct 3 2018 11:38am
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Oct 3 2018 11:41am
24 max 80life/3soc armor
24max 20life/3soc hell or 2pcomb/80life/2soc circ
Honor divine scept w/ some kind of staff mods
Sanders boots or gtoes
Soj’s or decent rare rings
2pcomb/life/mana amulet
If you need res make a 45res/45max/80life armor or helm
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Oct 3 2018 11:43am
Guide: https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=36122608&f=143

Best 30 charger ever: https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=79514963&f=103

honor > rare bhammer > ....... > .......... > clegs sword

up'd b fists > b fists > ik combo > sigs combo > clegs (slow bm anyways)

rare pp boots > g toes / sanders > whatever else

72 max armor / 45max-45res armor/spirit shroud vs blizz > rattlecage > up'd twitch

belt? string of ears, vs literally everyone in every matchup at all times.

move rings and ammy over to a rare set for more mana (400+ to be really viable tbh)

Quote (Avenged123 @ Oct 3 2018 11:41am)
24 max 80life/3soc armor
24max 20life/3soc hell or 2pcomb/80life/2soc circ
Honor divine scept w/ some kind of staff mods
Sanders boots or gtoes
Soj’s or decent rare rings
2pcomb/life/mana amulet
If you need res make a 45res/45max/80life armor or helm


the only caveat i'd say is sojs setup should use a peace armor.

This post was edited by thesnipa on Oct 3 2018 11:44am
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Oct 3 2018 11:58am
Try to get an honor divine with medi+HS as your main weapon! Without good +skills on your divine, you may as well be using a naga
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Quote (thesnipa @ Oct 3 2018 10:43am)
Guide: https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=36122608&f=143

Best 30 charger ever: https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=79514963&f=103

honor > rare bhammer > ....... > .......... > clegs sword

up'd b fists > b fists > ik combo > sigs combo > clegs (slow bm anyways)

rare pp boots > g toes / sanders > whatever else

72 max armor / 45max-45res armor/spirit shroud vs blizz > rattlecage > up'd twitch

belt? string of ears, vs literally everyone in every matchup at all times.

move rings and ammy over to a rare set for more mana (400+ to be really viable tbh)



the only caveat i'd say is sojs setup should use a peace armor.



I found it doesn’t really matter, in whatever setup you choose you’re gonna 1 hit opponents majority of the time, never takes more than 2hits...
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Oct 3 2018 12:52pm
Quote (Avenged123 @ 3 Oct 2018 12:22)
I found it doesn’t really matter, in whatever setup you choose you’re gonna 1 hit opponents majority of the time, never takes more than 2hits...



For me it’s 1-4
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Oct 3 2018 01:42pm
Quote (Avenged123 @ Oct 3 2018 12:22pm)
I found it doesn’t really matter, in whatever setup you choose you’re gonna 1 hit opponents majority of the time, never takes more than 2hits...


generally i agree, but from the math side if you're taking on the MDR from sojs you might as well pair with a bigger crit chance, rather than a bit more flat dmg from a 72 max armor. all +max is factored through 1/7 penalty to counter that MDR bug, to me a bigger chance to crit is >

insight sojs peace ds hat charger can be really good for really dirt cheap.

or just be cool and instead of mitigating mdr bug prevent it entirely by stacking an absurd about of +light dmg and specing shocker.
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Quote (thesnipa @ Oct 3 2018 03:42pm)
generally i agree, but from the math side if you're taking on the MDR from sojs you might as well pair with a bigger crit chance, rather than a bit more flat dmg from a 72 max armor. all +max is factored through 1/7 penalty to counter that MDR bug, to me a bigger chance to crit is >

insight sojs peace ds hat charger can be really good for really dirt cheap.

or just be cool and instead of mitigating mdr bug prevent it entirely by stacking an absurd about of +light dmg and specing shocker.


mdr overflow isn't a huge deal when your charge is still killing them in 1 hit after mdr is applied
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Quote (Worrywart @ Oct 3 2018 01:59pm)
mdr overflow isn't a huge deal when your charge is still killing them in 1 hit after mdr is applied


ya i spose. i build chargers around avoiding min hits, as they're infuriating in some matchups when u spend 5 mins setting up a single charge only to not have it kill and then lose.

overall 2x rare rings > sojs, and 72 maxer > peace. sojs+peace is a cheaper setup. in the perspective of ladder if you have nice rare rings (harder to find) then buy a 72 maxer. otherwise just stick with peace/sojs and dont bother to upgrade until u get your rings.

also, on the topic of post counts, im comin for that ass homey.
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Oct 3 2018 02:15pm
Dmg looks better w/ sojs, I think I also got more mana w/ sojs than rates... the rares also didn’t give much of a life increase.
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