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Dec 1 2011 08:07pm
Quote (animematrix @ Dec 1 2011 07:07pm)
I'd suggest; Black Hammer with Tut/Sent/Stone: Helm/Body/Legs & Swift with Armadillo: Gloves/Boots.


adding on to that for accessories get warlord/passion

my lann has ~9.2k def with +10 tutelery/sentinel sets and all warlord/passion enchanted accessories
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Quote (alanwong2009 @ Dec 1 2011 07:07pm)
adding on to that for accessories get warlord/passion

my lann has ~9.2k def with +10 tutelery/sentinel sets and all warlord/passion enchanted accessories


wish I could afford a set like that :(
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Quote (alanwong2009 @ Dec 1 2011 06:07pm)
adding on to that for accessories get warlord/passion

my lann has ~9.2k def with +10 tutelery/sentinel sets and all warlord/passion enchanted accessories


how is your defense so low with +10 o_O.

I'm running the following setup (on my karok but essentially same gear/stats)~
BH tunic/pants/boots and Swift hat/gloves, its about the same as the BH hat/tunic/pants and Swift gloves/shoes. it adds a little more will compared to agility but really no big difference.
All my gear is +5 Tutelary/Sentinel with gloves and shoes Tutelary/Armadillo. Accessories is Warlord/Passion with a extra ring with Warlord/Zerker when i need it. I'm sitting on 9.6k defense with no cadet badge.


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basically, your armor is still not on par yet. with a clean BH/Swift setup (most common) with no def enchants, you will sit on roughly 5.5k-5.6k defense. With BH/Ingkells you will hit about 5.6-5.7k ish and have higher crit res (overall less defense though since you can't use armadillos in this setup and less attack). Then work on your enchants, they are pretty expensive early on but well worth it later (remember r8/r9 enchants can break your armor). Skills that add defense are defense mastery, armor proficiencies (plate and heavy) and agility mastery. You can also run 1-2 Oceans Embrace rings or even Protection rings for a cheaper alternative.
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Quote (XuXo @ Dec 3 2011 01:11am)
how is your defense so low with +10 o_O.

I'm running the following setup (on my karok but essentially same gear/stats)~
BH tunic/pants/boots and Swift hat/gloves, its about the same as the BH hat/tunic/pants and Swift gloves/shoes. it adds a little more will compared to agility but really no big difference.
All my gear is +5 Tutelary/Sentinel with gloves and shoes Tutelary/Armadillo. Accessories is Warlord/Passion with a extra ring with Warlord/Zerker when i need it. I'm sitting on 9.6k defense with no cadet badge.


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basically, your armor is still not on par yet. with a clean BH/Swift setup (most common) with no def enchants, you will sit on roughly 5.5k-5.6k defense. With BH/Ingkells you will hit about 5.6-5.7k ish and have higher crit res (overall less defense though since you can't use armadillos in this setup and less attack). Then work on your enchants, they are pretty expensive early on but well worth it later (remember r8/r9 enchants can break your armor). Skills that add defense are defense mastery, armor proficiencies (plate and heavy) and agility mastery. You can also run 1-2 Oceans Embrace rings or even Protection rings for a cheaper alternative.
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well titles can be a factor cuz agil adds more def also, and my stuff are full sentinel and no armidillo so that's about 100 def diff x2 piece of equip
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Quote (alanwong2009 @ Dec 4 2011 06:46pm)
well titles can be a factor cuz agil adds more def also, and my stuff are full sentinel and no armidillo so that's about 100 def diff x2 piece of equip


the armadillo is probably why. each armadillo is 112 more defense than sentinel. you probably have higher crit resist.
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Dec 5 2011 02:06pm
69 critical res cuz i used solid instead of tutelery or enduring

This post was edited by alanwong2009 on Dec 5 2011 02:06pm
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Quote (alanwong2009 @ Dec 5 2011 12:06pm)
69 critical res cuz i used solid instead of tutelery or enduring


yep, i decided to use a tutelary instead of a enduring/solid simply because i wanted to break 9.5k defense without a badge.

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Quote (XuXo @ 3 Dec 2011 00:11)
how is your defense so low with +10 o_O.

I'm running the following setup (on my karok but essentially same gear/stats)~
BH tunic/pants/boots and Swift hat/gloves, its about the same as the BH hat/tunic/pants and Swift gloves/shoes. it adds a little more will compared to agility but really no big difference.
All my gear is +5 Tutelary/Sentinel with gloves and shoes Tutelary/Armadillo. Accessories is Warlord/Passion with a extra ring with Warlord/Zerker when i need it. I'm sitting on 9.6k defense with no cadet badge.


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basically, your armor is still not on par yet. with a clean BH/Swift setup (most common) with no def enchants, you will sit on roughly 5.5k-5.6k defense. With BH/Ingkells you will hit about 5.6-5.7k ish and have higher crit res (overall less defense though since you can't use armadillos in this setup and less attack). Then work on your enchants, they are pretty expensive early on but well worth it later (remember r8/r9 enchants can break your armor). Skills that add defense are defense mastery, armor proficiencies (plate and heavy) and agility mastery. You can also run 1-2 Oceans Embrace rings or even Protection rings for a cheaper alternative.
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ok if i were to change between spear/sword around i would use swift/bh because the 200+ def from armadillo. what is good about ingkells if i can enchant this with armidillo ?
is there enchants for ingkells thats also better?
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Quote (Madoka @ Dec 6 2011 03:36pm)
ok if i were to change between spear/sword around i would use swift/bh because the 200+ def from armadillo. what is good about ingkells if i can enchant this with armidillo ?
is there enchants for ingkells thats also better?


bh/swift give the most str out of all other combination in sacrificing a little def, but ever since armadillo es came out the def sacrifice was neutralized (or it even have more def) while still gives the most str, but some lanns prefer to have more wil (for more chances to do critical hits) so they use dark crest or passionate debueruke set.

if you choose to use ingkell, u will not be able to put armadillo on them because it's restricted to be on heavy armor only, ur only option to get more def would be sentinel (plate and heavy es).
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Quote (alanwong2009 @ Dec 6 2011 03:00pm)
bh/swift give the most str out of all other combination in sacrificing a little def, but ever since armadillo es came out the def sacrifice was neutralized (or it even have more def) while still gives the most str, but some lanns prefer to have more wil (for more chances to do critical hits) so they use dark crest or passionate debueruke set.

if you choose to use ingkell, u will not be able to put armadillo on them because it's restricted to be on heavy armor only, ur only option to get more def would be sentinel (plate and heavy es).


im not a huge expert on lanns but just to add on~

the most important attribute for a spear lann would be criticals, which makes twinkling es the best spear prefix. the drawback for twinkling is its -10% crit resist, however with bh/ingkells and sentinels, it more than makes up for that. this is why i was told a lot of spear lanns prefer bh/ingkells over bh/swift.
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