bmw and toyota agree to collaborate on a sports car

http://www.f30post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=929664

itll most likely turn out to be shit, dont get your hopes up.

Fucked up again.

tbh im more interested to see what comes outa bmw but i figured most people would wanna hear about a new supra

Thanks for the link, will be interesting to see how this pans out.

Hopefully BMW shoves a turbo I6 down their throats. Maybe Toyota was unhappy with the subaru input on the brz? I don't see BMW encouraging an underpowered engine.

I think toyota was happy with the subaru partnership, but unhappy they can't make changes to it going forward unless subaru is on board.
The toyoburu was great for both of them because it broke both companies into a market they had no share in before that, RWD coupes.

But BMW already makes a turbo straight 6 (335i) I can't see them making a car to compete with a model they already have.
Only toyota would benefit from that.

This post was edited by Morphmcmanerson on Dec 31 2013 09:45am

I am on my phone so I haven't read the article, but I would say anything RWD that they come up with would have a BMW analog. The 1/3/5 series pretty much covers all size and performance ranges unless they make them cheaper than a 1 series which they could easily do if they go more Toyota like in the interior and refinement categories. I mean, a well optioned but far from loaded 135is is $50k. With a downgrade in fit and finish courtesy of Toyota they could come up with something that you could get loaded for around the same price as a Mustang or Camaro ($40k) and it would not really be competing with BMW or Toyota. People that want a BMW are still going to buy the BMW. Toyota doesn't have anything in that price range that it would compete with. It would have to be bigger and more powerful than the BRZ to keep from chopping it's knees. It would almost have to be aimed at the Genesis/Mustang market. Maybe even the performance version of the ATS when it happens since it is likely to carry enough BMW DNA that it will be seen as "Premium" or "Luxury" compared to other things in that price range.

I know BMW will want to keep it away from all of it's M cars in one way or another. Just my initial thoughts.

This post was edited by FMX_89 on Dec 31 2013 10:05am

incase u didnt see the article yet here you go

Back in January of this year, BMW and Toyota signed an agreement to cooperate on joint development of a fuel cell system, joint development of architecture and components for a future sports vehicle, collaboration on powertrain electrification and joint research and development on lightweight technologies. The two companies have now decided upon and agreed to develop a joint platform for sportscars, BMW's development chief Herbert Diess told a German newspaper.

"We have agreed on a joint architecture for a sports car. What is important is that there will be two different vehicles that are authentic to the two brands," Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung today quoted Diess as saying.

Diess declined to provide details on the models that would result from the cooperation, but much of the rumor mill surrounding this project since its inception has suggested a potential Supra and Z4 built on the shared platform.

A rumor from earlier this year reported that BMW was testing a BMW-built V6 hybrid motor which would deliver similar power to the new Supra - speculated to be 400+ HP (from a turbocharged 2.5L inline 4 cylinder hybrid or a mid-mounted 3.5L V6 hybrid). Another recent rumor suggested instead that a hybrid halo sports car would be the product of the collaboration.

The next Z4 is due 2015-2016.

Undergorund 2 supra