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Jul 21 2014 12:52pm
Is it leased?
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Jul 21 2014 03:41pm
Quote (FLCRACKA @ Jul 20 2014 09:28pm)
I get 8-9 mpg beat that


hell i get that when i weigh 30k pounds :P
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Jul 21 2014 06:45pm
It looks like he is taking another vacation guys.
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Quote (FMX_89 @ Jul 20 2014 06:51pm)
So explain exactly what that plug in tuner changes to grant you 9mpg better highway economy than advertised.


O2 sensors oscillate between 14.6:1 and 14.8:1.  Some vehicles have a lean cruise state that allows a leaner afr under certain conditions. Some don't.  What exactly is that tuner doing to have such a big effect?  A stock tune in anything these days is already set up for max safe economy.  Making power is the easy part. Any monkey can do that.

Please explain to me exactly what it changes.  I asked 3 times so you hopefully won't dodge it.


easy, by triming the fuel back / increasing the o2 sensors threshhold for trim. Inject less fuel, well, thats about it. Run it a bit lean but if you are cruising and not wot, it doesnt matter anyways.

With the diablo sport tuner i got i can preload/create 5 different maps and change it whenever i want so if im just on the highway, cruise map.. if i want power, the power map.

The realistic power gains ive ever seen from the hemi with the dsport tuners is about 8-11hp at the wheel, average right around 9hp. its not much but hey, power is power.

it all comes down to driving style, if you try to get the most mpg, you will, and with a tune, it will increase the amount of fuel you save.. If i run a mpg map and beat the shit out of the car, well, that just stupid.. like building chevys that are worthless. cuz we all know they are... poor mans project car.

This post was edited by TURBO_DODGE on Jul 21 2014 09:59pm
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Jul 21 2014 09:52pm
Quote (said_aouita @ Jul 21 2014 12:52pm)
Is it leased?


i dont lease. I just buy and when i get bored i trade it in and get another one/newer one. usually when the car runs out of warantee is when i trade in
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Quote (FMX_89 @ Jul 20 2014 08:43pm)
I love watching him squirm.  He should totally leave jsp alone agajn and focus on the MIT physics classes...


:rofl:


i dont squirm, i know what im doing :P

im the one with a 40psi and meth injected monster. You just have a dime a dozen chick car. B)
Again, get certified to work on million dollar engines and then come back to me. I can feed you all the shit i want cuz in the end, i do know what im doing and you are just tinkering with meager chick cars and arnt on my level of skill when it comes things mechanical so i dont feel the need to comply with anything you say or be serious in any fashion. Jsp is my trollgrounds because its not a real automotive site..

Like i said before, when people have real issues and pm me, i help them because i know what im doing.. A guy on here the other day actually wanted me to call him and figure out the issue with his car, which i did call him and we got everything squared away. I gave him all the info i had on his issue and did the most i could without being there working on the car for him.

. I say what i want when i want cuz i can, cuz in the end, I have the training, knowlege and experience with real power and real technical shit.. Get the certifications and lmk. The A&P certification is brutal. My class started with 18 people and graduated 7. Most failing out the first year because when it comes to a government certification for aircraft, it shit, pisses and pukes all over SAE automotive.. So, Until then, Military Aircraft>chick car with no power.



as for the physics classes, i got interested in it when i took aeronautical physics as a requirement for the FAR Part 147 federal airframe and powerplant certification course. Since then ive studying it and learning the physics field and has been a hobby of mine cuz it interests me.

This post was edited by TURBO_DODGE on Jul 21 2014 10:20pm
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This was my exact certification curriculum for A&P mechanic. No, i dont know what im doing at all lol..



Aircraft Instrument Systems 10-402-110 3
Operating principles and use of aircraft instrumentation will be introduced on pressure, gyroscopic, and direction indicating. Studies include operation and use of electronic systems for Flight Instrument, Attitude Direction Indicator, and Monitoring displays such as Centralized Aircraft Monitoring, Engine Indicator and Crew Alerting Systems. Engine instrument systems and components will be inspected to include troubleshooting procedures.
Prerequisites: Aeronautics, Introduction to (10-402-124); DC Circuits 1 (10-660-110); DC Circuits 2 (10-660-111); DC Circuits 3 (10-620-103); AC Circuits 1 (10-660-114)


Avionics Systems 10-402-111 3
Introduces avionics systems which will provide the student with the knowledge to understand the operation of communication and navigation components and systems. Emphasis is on familiarization with avionics systems used on aircraft and how these systems are utilized by the flight crew. Avionics systems introduce the following: Very High Frequency Omnidirectional Range (VOR), Instrument Landing Systems (ILS), Marker Beacon, Long-Range Navigation (LORAN C), Automatic Direction Finder (ADF), Distance Measuring Equipment (DME), Area Navigation (RNAV), Global Position Systems (GPS), Very High Frequency Communication Systems (VHF Com.), Audio Control Systems, Radar Altimeters, Transponders, Traffic Alert and Collision Avoidance Systems (TCAS), and Weather Radar Systems.
Prerequisites: Introduction to Aeronautics (10-402-124), DC Circuits 1 (10-660-110), DC Circuits 2 (10-660-111), DC Circuits 3 (10-620-103) and AC Circuits 1 (10-660-114)


Materials and Installation 10-402-112 3
Introduces aerospace materials, hardware and processes. Students study the proper use of hand and power tools and precision measuring equipment. Safety is emphasized. Students do hands-on activities in sheet metal layout, bending and forming and install antennas and avionics equipment. They identify and inspect finishing materials.
Prerequisite: Admission to Aircraft Electronics or Airframe & Powerplant Mechanic programs; Corequisite: College Technical Math 1 (10-804-115) or College Technical Math 1A (10-804-113).


Aircraft Electrical Power 10-402-160 3
Introduces aircraft power sources and starting systems. Students complete maintenance and troubleshooting on batteries, generators, alternators and starters. Aircraft electric motor operation and systems application are also covered.
Prerequisite: Admission to Aircraft Electronics or Airframe & Powerplant Mechanic programs; Corequisite: College Technical Math 1 (10-804-115) or College Technical Math 1A (10-804-113).

Aviation Regulations & Publications 10-402-161 2
Studies FAA and manufacturers' publications. FAA regulations for certification, maintenance and aircraft airworthiness are reviewed. Students identify FAA-approved publications and procedures to perform maintenance to an airworthy standard including aircraft record requirements.
Prerequisite: Admission to Aircraft Electronics or Airframe & Powerplant Mechanic programs; Corequisite: College Technical Math 1 (10-804-115) or College Technical Math 1A (10-804-113).


Aircraft Electrical Systems 10-402-163 3
Aircraft electrical systems and component operation will be introduced. Projects will allow students to develop skills in wiring installation, termination, repairs and inspection of systems. Maintenance of controls, switches, indicators and protective devices will be introduced to develop servicing and troubleshooting skills.
Prerequisites: Aircraft Electrical Power (10-402-160); DC Circuits 1 (10-660-110); DC Circuits 2 (10-660-111); DC Circuits 3 (10-620-103); AC Circuits 1 (10-660-114)


Maintenance Forms & Records 10-402-166 1
Students will understand the application of Federal Aviation Regulations and requirements for aircraft maintenance records. Maintenance record entry procedures and details required for various operations will be introduced. Requirements and procedures for completion of FAA forms and documentation for Major Repairs, Inspections, and Weight & Balance records will be covered. Typical industry work order, parts tagging, time controlled parts and inspection monitoring will identified.
Prerequisites: Aviation Regulations & Publications (10-402-161); Materials & Installation (10-402-112)


Technical Drawings & Diagrams 10-402-167 1
Students will read and use aircraft blueprints, draw sketches of aircraft repairs and alterations. Identify symbols and utilize schematic diagrams, graphs and charts in specific applications. Apply troubleshooting skills to systems with the use of electrical wiring diagrams.
Prerequisites: Aviation Regulations & Publications (10-402-161); Aeronautics, Introduction to (10-402-124)


Human Factors 10-402-168 1
Maintenance resource management issues are introduced. The study of airline safety, human error in maintenance, human factors fundamentals, worker safety, communication, team work, situation awareness, and performance management.


DC Circuits 3 - Aircraft/Electromechanical 10-620-103 1
Examines the theory and application of series/parallel circuits such as loaded and unloaded voltage dividers, the Wheatstone bridge, and analog ammeter and voltmeter design.
Corequisite: DC Circuits 2 (10-660-111)


DC Circuits 1 10-660-110 1
Introduces electrical safety and program procedures. The course covers Ohm's Law, power law, series circuits, and voltmeter, ammeter and ohmmeter applications. Number powers, electronic notations, circuit component recognition and diagrams, resistor power ratings, color code, Kirchhoff's voltage law and atomic structure are also included.
Corequisite: College Technical Math 1 (10-804-115) or College Technical Math 1A (10-804-113) or Industrial Maintenance Math (31-804-308)


DC Circuits 2 10-660-111 1
Covers basic parallel and series/parallel circuits and their properties. Magnetism and devices such as relays and solenoids are also presented. Laboratory activities are performed to verify the theory.
Corequisite: DC Circuits 1 (10-660-110)


AC Circuits 1 10-660-114 1
Covers AC waveforms and different voltage values including Peak, RMS, Average and Peak to Peak. The operations of inductors, capacitors, time constants and transformers are included. Laboratory activities using the oscilloscope are performed to verify the theory.
Corequisite: DC Circuits 2 (10-660-111)


Aircraft Powerplants 1 32-402-310 4
Covers aircraft powerplants dealing with the theory of internal combustion engines (reciprocating overhaul). Students will disassemble, clean, inspect and reassemble engines. The theory of operation, inspection techniques and tools, the proper use of manuals and the application of FAR's to engine overhaul and maintenance also are included.
Prerequisites: Survey of Physics (10-806-139) or College Physics 1 (10-806-143); Aircraft Instrument Systems (10-402-110); Math-Technical Basic (10-804-125) or College Tech Math 1 (10-801-115) or College Tech Math 1A (10-804-113)


Powerplant Systems 1 32-402-315 3
Covers the principles of fire protection and induction and exhaust systems including maintenance, inspection and troubleshooting of components and systems.
Prerequisites: Aeronautics, Introduction to (10-402-124); Aircraft Electrical Power (10-402-160); Aircraft Instrument Systems (10-402-110)


Powerplant Systems 2 32-402-316 2
Outlines aircraft ignition systems. Students learn about aircraft magneto, turbine ignition, high and low tension ignition systems, and the construction and functioning of the aircraft sparkplug. Appropriate FAA regulations and the use of manufacturers' manuals are stressed.
Prerequisites: Aeronautics, Introduction to (10-402-124); Aircraft Electrical Power (10-402-160); Aircraft Instrument Systems (10-402-110)


Aircraft Systems 1 32-402-322 2
Teaches students the principles of cabin atmosphere control and fuel systems. Typical systems are studied using aircraft maintenance installation and the overhaul of various components. Included is the study of vacuum, de-icing, oxygen and airframe fuel systems.
Prerequisites: Survey of Physics (10-806-139) or College Physics 1 (10-806-143); Aeronautics, Introduction to (10-402-124); Aircraft Electrical Systems (10-402-163)


Aircraft Systems 2 32-402-323 4
Focuses on aircraft hydraulic, pneumatic, and fire detection and protection systems. It also covers basic principles and system designs, the purpose and functioning of the individual units, and maintenance overhaul and testing of units and systems.
Prerequisites: Survey of Physics (10-806-139) or College Physics 1 (10-806-143); Aircraft Electrical Systems (10-402-163)


Structural Materials 32-402-326 3
Students will learn to apply basic concepts of inspection and maintenance of wood aircraft structures and fabric covering. The development and industry integration of advanced composite materials will be introduced. Extensive hands on projects with composite materials will use vacuum bag techniques with heat application in repairs of composite materials. Inspection and maintenance of aircraft plastics will be experienced.
Prerequisites: Aeronautics, Introduction to (10-402-124); Materials & Installation (10-402-112); Technical Drawings & Diagrams (10-402-167)


Maintenance and Service 32-402-327 3
Focuses on the techniques of servicing and repairing aircraft and the systematic inspection of the entire airframe, powerplant and accessories. Fundamentals of rigging flight controls and operation of rotary wing aircraft are introduced.
Prereq.: Maintenance Forms & Records (10-402-166); Aircraft Powerplants 1 (32-402-310); Aircraft Systems 1 (32-402-322); Aircraft Materials/Processes (32-402-320) OR Aircraft Inspection and Analysis (32-402-333) and Aircraft Applied Welding (32-442-317)


Aircraft Powerplant 2 2 32-402-331 4
Emphasizes the theory, repair and troubleshooting of aircraft turbine engines. Hot section inspection, ground servicing, engine run-up, inspection procedures, use of various test equipment and engine instruments are covered. Regulations and use of manufacturers' manuals are stressed.
Prerequisites: Survey of Physics (10-806-139) or College Physics 1 (10-806-143); Aircraft Instrument Systems (10-402-110); Math-Technical Basic (10-804-125) or College Tech Math 1 (10-801-115) or College Tech Math 1A (10-804-113)


Powerplant Systems 3 32-402-337 3
Examines such topics as aircraft carburetion, float, injection and turbine fuel metering, as well as the maintenance and overhaul of associated fuel system components. Appropriate FAR's and manufacturers' procedures are followed.
Prerequisites: Aircraft Powerplants 1 (32-402-310); Survey of Physics (10-806-139) or College Physics 1 (10-806-143)


Propellers 32-402-339 2
Explains the construction and operating principles of propellers and propeller systems. Federal Aviation Administration regulations and manufacturers' specifications relating to the installation, inspection and maintenance of propellers and their systems are addressed.
Prerequisite: Aeronautics, Introduction to (10-402-124)


Aircraft Inspection and Analysis 32-402-333 3
Provides an introduction to non-destructive inspection, including magnetic particle, dye penetrant, eddy current, and ultrasonic testing. Students will also apply advanced design and completion techniques for metallic structure repair. Metallurgy and heat treatment of ferrous and non-ferrous metals are also explored.
Prerequisite: Materials & Installation (10-402-112)


Aircraft Applied Welding 32-442-317 1
Introduces the processes of GMAW on steel, GTAW on stainless and aluminum, and GTAW on thin wall tubular steel structure. Oxy-gas, MIG and TIG welding, equipment safety techniques are examined. Inspection of weld samples is emphasized.


Aeronautics, Introduction to 10-402-124 3
Provides an overview of aviation including the principles of flight. This course introduces aircraft systems and performance, navigation, basic meteorological concepts, aviation safety and specific regulations. The social and environmental impacts of aviation are discussed.
Corequisite: College Technical Math 1 (10-804-115) or College Technical Math 1A (10-804-113).


Written Communication 10-801-195 3
Teaches the writing process which includes prewriting, drafting and revising. Through writing assignments, students analyze audience and purpose, research and organize ideas, and format and design documents based on subject matter and content. Class sessions and assignments involve giving oral presentations and using computers.
Prereq: ACCPL Reading >= 54 & Sentence >= 83 OR ACT (Read/Sent) >= 18 OR Program Prep OR Not pursuing a degree. Personal/prof dev students who have not taken ACCUPLACER or ACT must consult with instructor.


College Technical Math 1A 10-804-113 3
Included topics are solving linear, quadratic, and rational equations; graphing; formula rearrangement; solving systems of equations; percent; proportions; and operations on polynomials. Emphasis will be on the application of skills to technical problems. Successful completion of College Technical Math 1A and College Technical Math 1B is the equivalent of College Technical Math 1.
Prereq: ACCPL Arithmetic >= 65 OR ACT Math >= 18 OR Program Prep OR Not pursuing a degree. Personal/prof dev students who have not taken ACCUPLACER or ACT must consult with instructor at the first class.


Survey of Physics 10-806-139 3
Emphasizes understanding basic physics concepts through laboratory investigation and applications. Topics include kinematics, dynamics, work, energy, power, temperature, heat, waves, electricity, magnetism, electromagnetic waves, optics, and atomic and nuclear physics.
Prerequisite: College Technical Math 1A (10-804-113) or College Mathematics (10-804-107) or College Technical Math 1 (10-804-115) or instructor approval
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Jul 21 2014 11:21pm
Holy fucking wall of rage. I love the quadruple post. I'll get back to this later.
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Quote (TURBO_DODGE @ Jul 21 2014 10:52pm)
easy, by triming the fuel back / increasing the o2 sensors threshhold for trim. Inject less fuel, well, thats about it. Run it a bit lean but if you are cruising and not wot, it doesnt matter anyways.

With the diablo sport tuner i got i can preload/create 5 different maps and change it whenever i want so if im just on the highway, cruise map.. if i want power, the power map.

The realistic power gains ive ever seen from the hemi with the dsport tuners is about 8-11hp at the wheel, average right around 9hp. its not much but hey, power is power.

it all comes down to driving style, if you try to get the most mpg, you will, and with a tune, it will increase the amount of fuel you save.. If i run a mpg map and beat the shit out of the car, well, that just stupid.. like building chevys that are worthless. cuz we all know they are... poor mans project car.



Negative. You can't adjust anything about narrowband O2 sensors. Nothing. When it goes into closed loop it's hunting 14.7:1.

That A/F you are adjusting on your handheld POS is probably the PE table. That is not referenced under a certain throttle percentage.
PE is power enrichment. It's a multiplier value for achieving target AFR in high power demand situations.


If the car is operating correctly in closed loop there is very, very little you can do to increase mileage when cruising. That's just how it is.
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Quote (TURBO_DODGE @ Jul 21 2014 10:56pm)
i dont squirm, i know what im doing :P

im the one with a 40psi and meth injected monster. You just have a dime a dozen chick car.  B)
Again, get certified to work on million dollar engines and then come back to me. I can feed you all the shit i want cuz in the end, i do know what im doing and you are just tinkering with meager chick cars and arnt on my level of skill when it comes things mechanical so i dont feel the need to comply with anything you say or be serious in any fashion. Jsp is my trollgrounds because its not a real automotive site..

Like i said before, when people have real issues and pm me, i help them because i know what im doing.. A guy on here the other day actually wanted me to call him and figure out the issue with his car, which i did call him and we got everything squared away. I gave him all the info i had on his issue and did the most i could without being there working on the car for him.

. I say what i want when i want cuz i can, cuz in the end, I have the training, knowlege and experience with real power and real technical shit.. Get the certifications and lmk. The A&P certification is brutal. My class started with 18 people and graduated 7. Most failing out the first year because when it comes to a government certification for aircraft, it shit, pisses and pukes all over SAE automotive.. So, Until then, Military Aircraft>chick car with no power.



as for the physics classes, i got interested in it when i took aeronautical physics as a requirement for the FAR Part 147 federal airframe and powerplant certification course. Since then ive studying it and learning the physics field and has been a hobby of mine cuz it interests me.



Call it what you will my T/A would destroy your toys from a dig. None of your aircraft bullshit qualifies you to talk about tuning an EFI car. That much is obvious since nearly everything you've said thus far is wrong. It's not applicable.


Mustangs are chick cars. Fewer women bought 4th gen Trans Ams than nearly anything else GM has produced. Yet again you are talking about some shit you don't know anything about.

I know how much power it makes and i know what it runs at the track. We have a walkaround video of your spirit and one pathetic 2-3 pull with it spinning and you granny shiftin, not double clutchin like you should. Pathetic. Your bloatmobile challenger wouldn't make it past my Camaro, much less the T/A. I wouldn't even waste the gas on it. I'd still race the spirit for laughs though. The offer from 5 years ago still stands.



I guess A&P certs and some physics classes don't teach you anything about personal finance. You let Fiat shove it's dick down your throat 3 separate times in 2 years.
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