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Quote (Azn Masta @ Feb 3 2016 07:03pm)
Sounds to me like AWD is just plain out better. Question: If AWD cars are so much better, do you mind me asking why people all don't switch over to AWD? Especially models such as corvette whose target market is for the racing enthusiasts.

I mean yea, it's a bit heavier, but I'm sure the extra traction offsets that. Aside from cost, I can't think of any other reason why AWD isn't the "way to go" for ALL performance cars.


And there's always a market for RWD enthusiast, which there are a lot of.
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Quote (ozzyarmy3 @ Feb 3 2016 03:10pm)
And there's always a market for RWD enthusiast, which there are a lot of.


Call me ignorant, but how much more could it be? I'll use Mercedes for example:
C300 RWD = 38950
C300 4Matic = 40950

So 2k more and you can leave your worries of rain/snow behind? Beam me up scotty!
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Quote (Azn Masta @ Feb 3 2016 07:22pm)
Call me ignorant, but how much more could it be? I'll use Mercedes for example:
C300 RWD = 38950
C300 4Matic = 40950

So 2k more and you can leave your worries of rain/snow behind? Beam me up scotty!



The problem is that Mercedes isn't too concerned with power loss with their 4matics, as its more of a luxury car. The 0-60 times are almost an entire second different, and that is terrible from a performance perspective. BUT its also not all about 0-60 times, its also about the cornering and the braking.. You might gain with the cornering a little bit 'they both might be synonymous, depending on the driver', but you would lose on the braking because of the weight etc.. So it would cost a hell of a lot more from a performance perspective to put an AWD system in a RWD platform.

If I had 110k to spend on a sports car, it would probably be an AWD vehicle like a GTR or a 911 but if I had 60k it would be a corvette or equivalent.
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Quote (FMX_89 @ Feb 2 2016 08:08pm)
Was the viper 1500lbs? If not I need video. I've seen Vbox data from the ridiculous AWD cars and nothing RWD has come close. At the half mile races 2000whp rwd cars struggle to break 200 and the AWD cars at the same power are running 220-240. 2 years ago it was still pretty even but we've hit the limit of the tires in rwd and the AWD guys are catching up on power.


Those are different conditions though too. Don't get me wrong. I'm not saying a rwd car will always or ever beat an equal AWD car.

You gotta remember too. Out of the 1500+ cars that go out at night. MAYBE 10 are awd cars over 1600hp. There are hundreds that are rwd 1500hp cars.

the other 1,000+ cars are everything from imports to 1khp street cars. There are a TON of ls cars hovering in the 600-900hp range. You'd have a blast. At the events, since your blown you'd get eaten alive but at night, there would be plenty to do.
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Quote (Azn Masta @ Feb 3 2016 02:03pm)
Sounds to me like AWD is just plain out better. Question: If AWD cars are so much better, do you mind me asking why people all don't switch over to AWD? Especially models such as corvette whose target market is for the racing enthusiasts.

I mean yea, it's a bit heavier, but I'm sure the extra traction offsets that. So aside from cost, I can't think of any other reason why AWD isn't the "way to go" for ALL performance cars. Who the hell cares about a minor cost increase, if you're already dropping 60k+ on the car


It's not "better" until you exceed the reasonable limits of the rear tires on a rwd car. For production cars that isn't an issue. AWD will always be heavier as well. Nothing rolls through the center of a turn like a balanced rwd car.


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Those are different conditions though too. Don't get me wrong. I'm not saying a rwd car will always or ever beat an equal AWD car.

You gotta remember too. Out of the 1500+ cars that go out at night. MAYBE 10 are awd cars over 1600hp. There are hundreds that are rwd 1500hp cars.

the other 1,000+ cars are everything from imports to 1khp street cars. There are a TON of ls cars hovering in the 600-900hp range. You'd have a blast. At the events, since your blown you'd get eaten alive but at night, there would be plenty to do.


There is always someone faster. I've never been the chip on the shoulder only going to race if I can win kind of guy. I'm racing the half mile at wannagofast in may because it will be fun. I've always wanted to go to TX2K but it's quite the trip to plan.
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Quote (FMX_89 @ Feb 3 2016 07:33pm)
It's not "better" until you exceed the reasonable limits of the rear tires on a rwd car. For production cars that isn't an issue. AWD will always be heavier as well. Nothing rolls through the center of a turn like a balanced rwd car.




There is always someone faster. I've never been the chip on the shoulder only going to race if I can win kind of guy. I'm racing the half mile at wannagofast in may because it will be fun. I've always wanted to go to TX2K but it's quite the trip to plan.


It's well worth it.

I used to come 1400 miles for it every year when I lived in Wisconsin.

Now it happens to be ~hour away :)

I'll be dead honest though. I've always had a LOT more fun at night doing hoodrat shit that I have at the day events. The half mile / mile is pretty fun though.
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Feb 4 2016 05:30pm
Quote (jimmyhoud @ Feb 4 2016 12:25pm)
It's well worth it.

I used to come 1400 miles for it every year when I lived in Wisconsin.

Now it happens to be ~hour away :)

I'll be dead honest though. I've always had a LOT more fun at night doing hoodrat shit that I have at the day events. The half mile / mile is pretty fun though.


Yeah thr new format is better but it's always been about the hood rat shit. Maybe when I get a built diff and trans in there and slap an F1X on it I'll come out.
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