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Jan 27 2013 08:55am
Quote (Sopranos @ Jan 26 2013 04:56am)
wonder what you drive..


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Jan 27 2013 09:03am
Quote (Morphmcmanerson @ Jan 27 2013 08:01am)
since you still don't know the difference between a manual transmission and an automatic transmission... i'll just post what it is for you.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manual%5Ftransmission
It uses a driver-operated clutch engaged and disengaged by a foot pedal (automobile) or hand lever (motorcycle), for regulating torque transfer from the engine to the transmission;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automatic%5Ftransmission
An automatic  is one type of motor vehicle transmission that can automatically change gear ratios as the vehicle moves, freeing the driver from having to shift gears manually.


So tell me the story one more time about how the M3 is a manual? Is it because it uses a driver operated clutch, engaged and disengaged by a foot pedal... or does it shift the gears automaticly, freeing the driver from having to engage the clutch manually?

I can't believe i have to explain to a grown man what the difference is between an automatic car and a manual.
Don't you drive a truck for a living, how can you not identify the most basic aspects of a motor vehicle.


look at what i found in the link to manual transmissions that you posted

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Semi-manual

Some new transmissions (Alfa Romeo's Selespeed gearbox and BMW's Sequential Manual Gearbox (SMG) for example) are conventional manual transmissions with a computerized control mechanism. These transmissions feature independently selectable gears but do not have a clutch pedal. Instead, the transmission computer controls a servo which disengages the clutch when necessary.

These transmissions vary from sequential transmissions in that they still allow nonsequential shifts: the SMG system formerly used by BMW, for example, could shift from 6th gear directly to 4th gear.

An early version of this type of transmission was the Autostick, which was used in the Volkswagen Beetle and Karmann Ghia from 1967 to 1976, where the clutch was disengaged by servo when the driver pushed downward slightly on the gear shift lever. This was a 3-speed unit.

In the case of the early second generation Saab 900, a 'Sensonic' option was available where gears were shifted with a conventional shifter, but the clutch is controlled by a computer.

See semi-automatic transmission for more examples.
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Jan 27 2013 09:22am
Quote (JDH @ Jan 27 2013 10:03am)
look at what i found in the link to manual transmissions that you posted


You can call a chicken a pig, but it's still a chicken.

a manual car uses a driver-operated clutch engaged and disengaged by a foot pedal (automobile) or hand lever (motorcycle), for regulating torque transfer from the engine to the transmission;

ok, so does the new M3 do that?
No? ok then it's not a manual car.
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See semi-automatic transmission for more examples.
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Jan 27 2013 09:24am
Quote (Morphmcmanerson @ Jan 27 2013 10:22am)
You can call a chicken a pig, but it's still a chicken.

a manual car uses a driver-operated clutch engaged and disengaged by a foot pedal (automobile) or hand lever (motorcycle), for regulating torque transfer from the engine to the transmission;

ok, so does the new M3 do that?
No? ok then it's not a manual car.


ok so morphmcmanerson knows more about cars than the automakers themselves.

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This post was edited by JDH on Jan 27 2013 09:28am
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Jan 27 2013 09:34am
Quote (JDH @ Jan 27 2013 10:24am)
ok so morphmcmanerson knows more about cars than the automakers themselves.

http://www.bimmerboost.com/images/imported/2012/11/1424221750_Cool_Story_Bro_Tell_it_again_-1.jpeg


That's the response i expected after someone dodges the same question 5 posts in a row.

What did i say that claimed i know more then automakers? i listed the definition of a manual trasmission and asks how the m3 falls into that definition.
A question which you dodge over and over.

I'm glad you think manual cars exist that don't have clutch peddles.
How are you manually syncing those gears in a paddle shifter again? reaching through your dash with your fist and doing it? Oh no wait it's automaticly done for you.

How come i can buy a brz in 2 transmission types, automatic with paddle shifters, and manual with a clutch and stick.
according to you it should be manual only right, manual paddle shifters and manual clutch and stick?

You have proved your mental retardation, several times over in this thread.
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Jan 27 2013 09:52am
For the record, my M3 has a double cutch transmission.
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Jan 27 2013 09:59am
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For the record, my M3 has a double cutch transmission.


You mean twin disk?
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Jan 27 2013 10:02am
Quote (Decom @ Jan 27 2013 11:59am)
You mean twin disk?


No, I mean DCT...
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Jan 27 2013 10:04am
Quote (0berst @ Jan 27 2013 10:52am)
For the record, my M3 has a double cutch transmission.


ya man i know, i just want to see how deep a hole JDH digs himself before he tries to troll his way out.

the DCT is a semi-automatic, there's no clutch pedal, and you can change gears as you wish, but it's still carried out by hydraulics, you don't manually change the gears/syncros/gyros/sprockets.
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Jan 27 2013 12:16pm
Quote (0berst @ Jan 27 2013 12:02pm)
No, I mean DCT...


Drive by wire or an automatic slush box?
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