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Oct 25 2016 11:18am
Quote (FMX_89 @ Oct 25 2016 04:57pm)
More and more states are drafting laws that crack down on left lane squatters. My neighboring state of Georgia did it 2 years ago.



Maybe I shouldn't be so ignorant than speaking for my region. I live 40 mins outside of Boston.

How slow are we talking about?

This is my opinion. If there's a 3 lane highway, with perfect weather conditions, and during non-commuter traffic,the speed limit should be as follows:

Right lane: 55-65
Middle lane: 65-75
Left lane: 75-90 with 95 and above being targeted as speeding.


I think those are fair limits for people who want to go fast, as well as, for people who do not wish to go fast. We also have to remember that not everyone on the road is in a hurry, not everyone feels comfortable driving at a higher speed, and that a lot of people simply drive their cars as a form of transportation.

This post was edited by stupidkid282 on Oct 25 2016 11:19am
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Oct 25 2016 11:31am
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Maybe I shouldn't be so ignorant than speaking for my region. I live 40 mins outside of Boston.

How slow are we talking about?

This is my opinion. If there's a 3 lane highway, with perfect weather conditions, and during non-commuter traffic,the speed limit should be as follows:

Right lane: 55-65
Middle lane: 65-75
Left lane: 75-90 with 95 and above being targeted as speeding.


I think those are fair limits for people who want to go fast, as well as, for people who do not wish to go fast. We also have to remember that not everyone on the road is in a hurry, not everyone feels comfortable driving at a higher speed, and that a lot of people simply drive their cars as a form of transportation.


Far too complicated... Just stick to Left for passing, Right for everyone else. If you're caught in left lane and not "passing" you will be ticketed (Similar fashion to driving in HOV).
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Quote (Azn Masta @ Oct 25 2016 07:22pm)
Far too complicated... Just stick to Left for passing, Right for everyone else. If you're caught in left lane and not "passing" you will be ticketed (Similar fashion to driving in HOV).


Actually, it's not complicated at all.


Your version would just be people constantly weaving and weaving isn't necessarily safe. As it stands now, the left lane is still for passing (generally). Ticketing people isn't going to change much as people already are ticketed for numerous infractions. Giving more allowance on road policies would at least give people more of an understanding on highway speeds.

Some people follow speed limits to the book. If they know they are allowed to go faster, they may, but only at that limit.

The highways where I live are 55 posted, some areas at 65 mph. Going above 80 and getting caught will generally get you pulled over.

In the end, arguing driving tendencies is rather silly because everyone, of all ages and skills, drives differently.

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Maybe I shouldn't be so ignorant than speaking for my region. I live 40 mins outside of Boston.

How slow are we talking about?

This is my opinion. If there's a 3 lane highway, with perfect weather conditions, and during non-commuter traffic,the speed limit should be as follows:

Right lane: 55-65
Middle lane: 65-75
Left lane: 75-90 with 95 and above being targeted as speeding.


I think those are fair limits for people who want to go fast, as well as, for people who do not wish to go fast. We also have to remember that not everyone on the road is in a hurry, not everyone feels comfortable driving at a higher speed, and that a lot of people simply drive their cars as a form of transportation.




Although Georgia’s “slow poke” law has been in effect since July 1, 2014, many people are still unaware of the law and its impact. States across the country have begun cracking down on drivers that impede the flow of traffic by lingering in the left lane. As part of this effort to combat traffic congestion and road rage incidents, the Georgia legislature amended O.C.G.A. § 40-6-184 to criminalize the act of driving in the left lane regardless if the driver is driving the speed limit. Specifically, it is illegal to “impede the normal and reasonable movement of traffic.” Thus, a driver who is driving the speed limit in the left lane with drivers behind them can be ticketed for failure to move over one lane to the right. In areas with more than 2 lanes of traffic, the law only applies to the “most left-hand lane other than a high occupancy vehicle lane” so drivers are not required to move all the way over to the far right.

Most jurisdictions began implementing the law through the issuance of warnings, but officers are not required to give you a warning because ignorance of the law is not a legal defense. Remember to only use the far left-hand lane when passing slower vehicles and always yield to faster traffic by merging back over to the right. If ticketed with a violation of the “slow poke” law, it’s important to remember that while officers have a wide range of discretion in determining whether a driver is impeding traffic, there are also many other factors such as weather conditions, time of day, and the general flow of traffic in the area that can affect your case.

If you are ticketed for impeding the flow of traffic you may receive a fine up to $1,000, 3 points on your license, and a substantial increase in your insurance premiums.


Quote (Azn Masta @ Oct 25 2016 02:22pm)
Far too complicated... Just stick to Left for passing, Right for everyone else. If you're caught in left lane and not "passing" you will be ticketed (Similar fashion to driving in HOV).


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Quote (stupidkid282 @ Oct 25 2016 02:49pm)
Actually, it's not complicated at all.


Your version would just be people constantly weaving and weaving isn't necessarily safe. As it stands now, the left lane is still for passing (generally). Ticketing people isn't going to change much as people already are ticketed for numerous infractions. Giving more allowance on road policies would at least give people more of an understanding on highway speeds.

Some people follow speed limits to the book. If they know they are allowed to go faster, they may, but only at that limit.

The highways where I live are 55 posted, some areas at 65 mph. Going above 80 and getting caught will generally get you pulled over.

In the end, arguing driving tendencies is rather silly because everyone, of all ages and skills, drives differently.



People have a hard enough time remembering to breathe these days. Let's keep it simple. Almost every state already has it set up so the left lane is only used for passing. Traffic gets congested when people impede that lane. You are supposed to do exactly what you said there. Pass in the left lane, then get back over into the right lane. It's not weaving, it's yielding to traffic behind you.

To your point, Texas has proven that the speed limit marginally affects the rate of traffic accidents. The speed differential between drivers in the same lane is the primary contributor. They raised many of their interstate speed limits to 80 and the total number of accidents decreased. That's what I remember reading once anyway. It makes sense to me. We aren't driving horse carts anymore like we were pre-2000. Most vehicles on the road stop extremely well in a very controlled fashion.
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Quote (FMX_89 @ Oct 25 2016 04:45pm)
Although Georgia’s “slow poke” law has been in effect since July 1, 2014, many people are still unaware of the law and its impact. States across the country have begun cracking down on drivers that impede the flow of traffic by lingering in the left lane. As part of this effort to combat traffic congestion and road rage incidents, the Georgia legislature amended O.C.G.A. § 40-6-184 to criminalize the act of driving in the left lane regardless if the driver is driving the speed limit. Specifically, it is illegal to “impede the normal and reasonable movement of traffic.” Thus, a driver who is driving the speed limit in the left lane with drivers behind them can be ticketed for failure to move over one lane to the right. In areas with more than 2 lanes of traffic, the law only applies to the “most left-hand lane other than a high occupancy vehicle lane” so drivers are not required to move all the way over to the far right.

Most jurisdictions began implementing the law through the issuance of warnings, but officers are not required to give you a warning because ignorance of the law is not a legal defense. Remember to only use the far left-hand lane when passing slower vehicles and always yield to faster traffic by merging back over to the right. If ticketed with a violation of the “slow poke” law, it’s important to remember that while officers have a wide range of discretion in determining whether a driver is impeding traffic, there are also many other factors such as weather conditions, time of day, and the general flow of traffic in the area that can affect your case.

If you are ticketed for impeding the flow of traffic you may receive a fine up to $1,000, 3 points on your license, and a substantial increase in your insurance premiums.




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People have a hard enough time remembering to breathe these days. Let's keep it simple. Almost every state already has it set up so the left lane is only used for passing. Traffic gets congested when people impede that lane. You are supposed to do exactly what you said there. Pass in the left lane, then get back over into the right lane. It's not weaving, it's yielding to traffic behind you.

To your point, Texas has proven that the speed limit marginally affects the rate of traffic accidents. The speed differential between drivers in the same lane is the primary contributor. They raised many of their interstate speed limits to 80 and the total number of accidents decreased. That's what I remember reading once anyway. It makes sense to me. We aren't driving horse carts anymore like we were pre-2000. Most vehicles on the road stop extremely well in a very controlled fashion.


Agreed.. like the max speed limit here is like 70 and it's awful. I do miss Texas when I was there... 4-5 lane interstates with 80 MPH speed limits was some great driving
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Oct 25 2016 05:56pm
Quote (stupidkid282 @ Oct 25 2016 12:18pm)
Maybe I shouldn't be so ignorant than speaking for my region. I live 40 mins outside of Boston.

How slow are we talking about?

This is my opinion. If there's a 3 lane highway, with perfect weather conditions, and during non-commuter traffic,the speed limit should be as follows:

Right lane: 55-65
Middle lane: 65-75
Left lane: 75-90 with 95 and above being targeted as speeding.


I think those are fair limits for people who want to go fast, as well as, for people who do not wish to go fast. We also have to remember that not everyone on the road is in a hurry, not everyone feels comfortable driving at a higher speed, and that a lot of people simply drive their cars as a form of transportation.



This is a terrible idea. Literally 90% of cars will be in the left lane. Keep right except to pass is a simple rule that half of the world already follows. You get into the left lane for two reasons: passing or heavy traffic.
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Oct 25 2016 06:26pm
Quote (AXIS @ Oct 25 2016 06:56pm)
This is a terrible idea. Literally 90% of cars will be in the left lane. Keep right except to pass is a simple rule that half of the world already follows. You get into the left lane for two reasons: passing or heavy traffic.


or because you need to turn onto an intersection road on your left.

or because "look at them cows guys". god i hate touristy drivers.
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Oct 25 2016 06:30pm
Quote (AXIS @ Oct 25 2016 11:56pm)
This is a terrible idea. Literally 90% of cars will be in the left lane. Keep right except to pass is a simple rule that half of the world already follows. You get into the left lane for two reasons: passing or heavy traffic.


Maybe the region where I live generally occupy are poor drivers, but left lane passing doesn't work here. During commuter hours, all three lanes are either stop and go, or sub 50 mph.

It's brutal. What's also brutal around here, and incredibly dangerous, are people who try to merge on the highway going under 40 MPH. Maybe it's just where I live, 40 minutes northwest of Boston.



I'm in complete agreement that raising speed limits should be implemented nation wide. I just don't see the police force ever pulling over people for going too slow here.

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Oct 25 2016 06:32pm
Quote (AXIS @ Oct 25 2016 11:56pm)
This is a terrible idea. Literally 90% of cars will be in the left lane. Keep right except to pass is a simple rule that half of the world already follows. You get into the left lane for two reasons: passing or heavy traffic.


I'm basing this off of the observations I see when I drive. It's not a terrible idea when looking at it that way.

There are VERY different drivers where I live, and a large portion drive under the speed limit. Not that I'm condoning speeding, but there is definitely a time and place where it's widely acceptable.

Like i said before, most highway areas around here is posted at 55mph, 3 lanes, and it doesn't go higher than 65 posted. So when you have conditions like that, it's very difficult to have a stable highway system, ESPECIALLY with congested driving (lots of big businesses where I live).

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