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Sep 29 2014 01:53pm
Quote (AspenSniper @ Sep 29 2014 01:47pm)
BMW 128 or 335. don't waste money on a 328


Not everyone cares about performance. Some just want the name and looks.

Half the general public doesn't know the difference anyway
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Sep 29 2014 03:49pm
Quote (Azn Masta @ Sep 29 2014 11:53am)
Not everyone cares about performance. Some just want the name and looks.

Half the general public doesn't know the difference anyway


95% of BMW/Benz/Audi etc owners probably
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Sep 29 2014 05:46pm
Quote (DaRkGoDz @ Sep 29 2014 05:49pm)
95% of BMW/Benz/Audi etc owners probably


that 95% of benz owners drive c classes. The bmw guys drive lowly 3 series etc. none of which arent "performance" cars per se

rarely will you see a 2013-2015 M or amg out there

Now if we talk about c63 AMG vs M3... the benz wins
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zh7KJM3ERrY

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that 95% of benz owners drive c classes. The bmw guys drive lowly 3 series etc. none of which arent "performance" cars per se

rarely will you see a 2013-2015 M or amg out there

Now if we talk about c63 AMG vs M3... the benz wins
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zh7KJM3ERrY


Well thats what I mean, you'll see a ton of BMW/Benz/Audi.. mostly driven by non-enthusiants/business people/leasing them. Usually (Like you said) Benz: C250/C300's..Now the CLA's are popping up a lot. BMW: 320/328i's or not 228i/428i... Very rarely do you see 335i's/M's etc.. They're out there a lot...But few and far between. Audi: A3/4/5's etc... Rarely see S Audi's.. Even rarer to see RS's..

Me personally, I'm a huge Audi/VW/VAG group person (I do love BMW/AMG's tho too), right now I drive the GTI as I stated but plan on getting an B8+ S4 as next car.. Maybe new S3 (Really don't want 2.0T anymore)
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Well thats what I mean, you'll see a ton of BMW/Benz/Audi.. mostly driven by non-enthusiants/business people/leasing them. Usually (Like you said) Benz: C250/C300's..Now the CLA's are popping up a lot. BMW: 320/328i's or not 228i/428i... Very rarely do you see 335i's/M's etc.. They're out there a lot...But few and far between. Audi: A3/4/5's etc... Rarely see S Audi's.. Even rarer to see RS's..

Me personally, I'm a huge Audi/VW/VAG group person (I do love BMW/AMG's tho too), right now I drive the GTI as I stated but plan on getting an B8+ S4 as next car.. Maybe new S3 (Really don't want 2.0T anymore)


ya. personally im a bmw/benz guy. i actually drive a cla45 amg and it actually has a faster sprint than the cls amg, but ofc only on a burst (over long run the cls wins).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPzCbTNpPWg

the CLA45 amg is about "tie" as the c63 give or take and for a price tag of like 55k... thats hard to top tbh. but in the end, the real reason why i got it was cuz i love the looks. not a huge fan of the regular e or c63 and the higher end are out of my range as i like my cars new, not used.

its not really as "bad" as some people claim.



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Quote (DaRkGoDz @ Sep 29 2014 08:06pm)
Well thats what I mean, you'll see a ton of BMW/Benz/Audi.. mostly driven by non-enthusiants/business people/leasing them. Usually (Like you said) Benz: C250/C300's..Now the CLA's are popping up a lot. BMW: 320/328i's or not 228i/428i... Very rarely do you see 335i's/M's etc.. They're out there a lot...But few and far between. Audi: A3/4/5's etc... Rarely see S Audi's.. Even rarer to see RS's..

Me personally, I'm a huge Audi/VW/VAG group person (I do love BMW/AMG's tho too), right now I drive the GTI as I stated but plan on getting an B8+ S4 as next car.. Maybe new S3 (Really don't want 2.0T anymore)


Really you don't see many S Audi's? Maybe they're more popular in my city/Ontario then where you are in the states but I see an S Audi on the road just about every day. There's a lot of Chinese international students in my city and quite a few of them drive S4s, S5s, S6s, even seen a few drive S7s and S8s. Certainly see S Audi's more than I do M's or AMG's.

RS's sure don't see very many of them, but RS5's are over 100,000 in Ontario and RS7's approach 150,000. Most people with that chunk of change have enough to buy a 100,000 sports car instead of a coupe, and for sedan they'll bump their price range up to 200,000 and buy a fully loaded Panamera or a Bentley/Aston Martin. I know guys at a VW dealership that bought an RS5 from a customer a few weeks ago. It's a beautiful car, but the market is narrow in North America for people looking for performance driven models of cars that are half or a third of the price normally.

I think M's and AMGs appeal less to non-enthusiasts than S Audi's do. Similar role, but Audi does a better job marketing S models to the mass market I think.
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Really you don't see many S Audi's? Maybe they're more popular in my city/Ontario then where you are in the states but I see an S Audi on the road just about every day. There's a lot of Chinese international students in my city and quite a few of them drive S4s, S5s, S6s, even seen a few drive S7s and S8s. Certainly see S Audi's more than I do M's or AMG's.

RS's sure don't see very many of them, but RS5's are over 100,000 in Ontario and RS7's approach 150,000. Most people with that chunk of change have enough to buy a 100,000 sports car instead of a coupe, and for sedan they'll bump their price range up to 200,000 and buy a fully loaded Panamera or a Bentley/Aston Martin. I know guys at a VW dealership that bought an RS5 from a customer a few weeks ago. It's a beautiful car, but the market is narrow in North America for people looking for performance driven models of cars that are half or a third of the price normally.

I think M's and AMGs appeal less to non-enthusiasts than S Audi's do. Similar role, but Audi does a better job marketing S models to the mass market I think.


There is tons of S audi's and M's and AMG's here in las vegas.. but compared to the non performance models...very few of course.

RS5's for example.. i know 2 people who have them, havent seen much others around... hell i see more R8's then i do RS's lol
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There is tons of S audi's and M's and AMG's here in las vegas.. but compared to the non performance models...very few of course.

RS5's for example.. i know 2 people who have them, havent seen much others around... hell i see more R8's then i do RS's lol


I'd say I see an S model for every 10 regular ones I see.

It makes sense to see more R8s than RS5s or RS7s. Don't see many of the older RS models either. An R8 has a lot more appeal then an RS5, and I'd say the market for six figures sports cars is bigger then the market for six figures sports sedans.
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I'd say I see an S model for every 10 regular ones I see.

It makes sense to see more R8s than RS5s or RS7s. Don't see many of the older RS models either. An R8 has a lot more appeal then an RS5, and I'd say the market for six figures sports cars is bigger then the market for six figures sports sedans.


RS5 is a Coupe ;)
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RS5 is a Coupe ;)


I've driven an RS5 I know what they are lol. My fiancée has an S5. But an R8 has more appeal then an RS5. Different price ranges, but there's more people looking for a high end sports car than a performance sport coupe. Audi sells a lot of A5/S5s but not many can justify the price of a RS5, not to mention the maintenance/insurance. Cheaper car but doesn't mean the market is bigger. It's tough to find numbers for the amount of RS5's sold but I'd imagine they sell about 500 a year in North America. Audi sells about 1000 R8s a year in North America.
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