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Oct 2 2013 03:05pm
Quote (Sopranos @ Oct 2 2013 03:56pm)
With no biased opinion in this matter, having read some different stories regarding this incident, and watching a few videos, using my soon to be police deduction skills, its clearly evident that the bikers are the cause of blame. He was brake checked unnecessarily. From first hand experience since I love in ny, right where this happened, when these big groups of bikers go out, they act like assholes most of the time.

the driver has the right to use deadly force in the protection of not only himself, but for others, in this case his family.

If any charges are brought forward on the suv driver, im willing to safely bet they wont stick during trial.


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Quote (Subwoofer @ Oct 2 2013 04:02pm)
lol ya. sad thing is almost every article is labeled something like "psycho bikers attack suv" instead of "wreck on highway leads to crazy chase" or something like that.


good thing i dont watch news lol, i read global news sometimes on my phone at work
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detective sopranos on the case


good thing i dont watch news lol, i read global news sometimes on my phone at work


i generally don't either unless its something people are talking about or science/politic related.

hopefully there were some cameras somewhere that caught more video of what happened because that gopro video is useless for seeing what happened by the suv before he ran over people. for all we know 1 guy walked up and knocked on his window to ask him if they were okay and he panicked thinking he was going to be attacked.
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Oct 2 2013 03:14pm
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i generally don't either unless its something people are talking about or science/politic related.

hopefully there were some cameras somewhere that caught more video of what happened because that gopro video is useless for seeing what happened by the suv before he ran over people. for all we know 1 guy walked up and knocked on his window to ask him if they were okay and he panicked thinking he was going to be attacked.


its possible, but not probable lol
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Oct 2 2013 03:14pm
Quote (Subwoofer @ Oct 2 2013 05:02pm)
yes...but not without just cause. the cause of his actions are still lacking evidence.



lol ya. sad thing is almost every article is labeled something like "psycho bikers attack suv" instead of "wreck on highway leads to crazy chase" or something like that.



maybe we watched different videos, because its clearly evident that the bikers were the aggressors...

you want just cause? i saw a biker assault the guys vehicle. as soon as he attacked his property, which the suv driver has the right to defend, let alone his family inside, his actions became justified. whether running over the biker was intentional or not, at that point in time it was irrelevant, he had an obligation to defend his family.

if there isnt any other video showing that the suv was the aggressor, which i havent seen as of yet, then with this video footage alone, the driver will be deemed innocent of any charges brought against his persons.

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i generally don't either unless its something people are talking about or science/politic related.

hopefully there were some cameras somewhere that caught more video of what happened because that gopro video is useless for seeing what happened by the suv before he ran over people. for all we know 1 guy walked up and knocked on his window to ask him if they were okay and he panicked thinking he was going to be attacked.



unfortunately you cant make situations like this up. if what you said hypothetically happen, and the bikers were not at fault, the suv driver was an idiot who overreacted, doesnt matter. no proof. this video alone incriminates the bikers and justified the suv drivers actions.

unless other footage is revealed, sorry bikers, the suv guy is walking from any and all charges.

This post was edited by Sopranos on Oct 2 2013 03:17pm
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maybe we watched different videos, because its clearly evident that the bikers were the aggressors...

you want just cause? i saw a biker assault the guys vehicle. as soon as he attacked his property, which the suv driver has the right to defend, let alone his family inside, his actions became justified. whether running over the biker was intentional or not, at that point in time it was irrelevant, he had an obligation to defend his family.

if there isnt any other video showing that the suv was the aggressor, which i havent seen as of yet, then with this video footage alone, the driver will be deemed innocent of any charges brought against his persons.


you sound like a lawyer
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Oct 2 2013 03:19pm
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you sound like a lawyer



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you sound like a lawyer


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Quote (Sopranos @ Oct 2 2013 04:14pm)
maybe we watched different videos, because its clearly evident that the bikers were the aggressors...

you want just cause? i saw a biker assault the guys vehicle. as soon as he attacked his property, which the suv driver has the right to defend, let alone his family inside, his actions became justified. whether running over the biker was intentional or not, at that point in time it was irrelevant, he had an obligation to defend his family.

if there isnt any other video showing that the suv was the aggressor, which i havent seen as of yet, then with this video footage alone, the driver will be deemed innocent of any charges brought against his persons.




unfortunately you cant make situations like this up. if what you said hypothetically happen, and the bikers were not at fault, the suv driver was an idiot who overreacted, doesnt matter. no proof. this video alone incriminates the bikers and justified the suv drivers actions.

unless other footage is revealed, sorry bikers, the suv guy is walking from any and all charges.


this video incriminates ONE Biker in the initial conflict and the wreck.

the bikers that got ran over are shown just sitting on there bikes and are NOT attacking him. it is not okay to run over bystanders to protect your own interest.

and ya if this remains word vs word the suv guy is going to have the better lawyer and the pity card.
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Oct 2 2013 03:34pm
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this video incriminates ONE Biker in the initial conflict and the wreck.

the bikers that got ran over are shown just sitting on there bikes and are NOT attacking him. it is not okay to run over bystanders to protect your own interest.

and ya if this remains word vs word the suv guy is going to have the better lawyer and the pity card.


and one biker is all it takes to incriminate the entire group, something called transferred intent. no one in that group tried to stop the out of control bikers, they are now considered accomplices because they failed to act in a way to stop the violent attack.

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Oct 2 2013 03:39pm
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and one biker is all it takes to incriminate the entire group, something called transferred intent. no one in that group tried to stop the out of control bikers, they are now considered accomplices because they failed to act in a way to stop the violent attack.

was gds.


defending the chase and assault are not my intent.

i'm simply pointing out that saying what he did was justified(running over people just sitting on there bike) with the lack of evidence is disturbing to me.

we basically just watched what could of easily been the murder of 3+ bystanders that had nothing to do with the incident other than they were in the wrong place at the wrong time.
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