Quote (Subwoofer @ Oct 2 2013 03:31pm)

ya there were idiot in the group no doubt. i'm not defending all their actions i'm just saying that believing only the claims of the suv driver with ZERO evidence isn't fair.



ya he was a moron but who is responsible for the wreck isn't the issue.

all the bikes in the front except for 1 guy stayed on their bikes...this doesn't add up with his story that they were all out to get him.

you can't see what happens by the suv in the video before he plows over the people just sitting there. he claims they attacked his suv but there has been no evidence of this. the video shows his tire tread coming off later in the video but this is also damage that could of easily came from running over the motorcycles.

tell me...if you just panicked and ran over a bunch of people out of irrational fear on video and are a rich guy are you going to say "oh well i just panicked" or are you going to claim shit liek "they attacked me is why i did it"?

i don't know if his actions were justified because there isn't enough evidence yet...just like me you should be on the fence until something gets proven not just believe whatever the rich guy with a good lawyer is claiming.

Quote (TeaRs- @ Oct 2 2013 03:39pm)

it wouldnt matter if i was rich or not. hell im dirt poor and i would have done the same thing. if you had kids you might understand a little bit better. i am not a fighter by any means. i dont go out looking for fights ect. the only time i have seen red and blacked out( besides drinking lol) was when i thought my son was in danger. i regret nothing about it

Quote (Subwoofer @ Oct 2 2013 03:43pm)

if someone attacked your vehicle in that situation i don't see it as unreasonable to react that way.

if you did that just because you THOUGHT they were going to attack you...then you should be held accountable for it.

the main concern is was his fear justified or was his fear based on stereotyping and paranoia.

Quote (iRTB @ Oct 2 2013 03:52pm)

either way driver has not been charged of anything and multiple bikers have been arrested and are looking for more.

Quote (TeaRs- @ Oct 2 2013 03:53pm)

dummies, drove around breaking laws with go pros on their helmets, then posted them online lol

Quote (TeaRs- @ Oct 2 2013 03:48pm)

its all up to personal opinion. fear for me is diffrent than fear for you

Quote (iRTB @ Oct 2 2013 03:52pm)

either way driver has not been charged of anything and multiple bikers have been arrested and are looking for more.

Quote (Subwoofer @ Oct 2 2013 03:55pm)

agreed. which is why the police investigation and the law will determine if his actions were justified or not when its all said and done.



well ya but thats because alot of those bikers did SUPER OBVIOUS crimes on camera. what happened to cause the suv driver to run over people is still just word vs word right now.

Quote (Sopranos @ Oct 2 2013 03:56pm)

With no biased opinion in this matter, having read some different stories regarding this incident, and watching a few videos, using my soon to be police deduction skills, its clearly evident that the bikers are the cause of blame. He was brake checked unnecessarily. From first hand experience since I love in ny, right where this happened, when these big groups of bikers go out, they act like assholes most of the time.

the driver has the right to use deadly force in the protection of not only himself, but for others, in this case his family.

If any charges are brought forward on the suv driver, im willing to safely bet they wont stick during trial.

Quote (TeaRs- @ Oct 2 2013 03:56pm)

right im sure they will sort it all out. its national news i guess? i dont watch tv accept cars , sports and the science channel lol