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Jul 23 2013 09:47am
Quote (FMX_89 @ Jul 23 2013 08:48am)
Oh I forgot you have never raced anything in your life... let me explain for a third time...

It's a fake feeling of performance.  In reality you are going slow and breaking the back end loose because of prius tires and 200hp.  But it feels like you are on the last lap at le mans. You really aren't, but it feels like you are.  What do we call that? A facade? Fake? Right? That is perfectly fine. It makes a cheap car fun to drive in the opposite way of a muscle car.  Works as intended...


Yet you think it is the performance bargain of the century.  Weight, center of gravity (I think you mean weight distribution here) and balance are things important to overall performance but they don't make it perform without power, grip, and braking.  The way you describe it's performance you might as well take the engine out and make it into a coffee table.


Edit: I love when everyone else in the subforum gets it but the target continues to bash his head into a brick wall.


You are good at 2 things FMX, making up lingo, and making assumptions about people you know nothing about.

'false performance' isn't a term, because it isn't a thing. (no matter how hard you try, over and over, i think you're on the 3rd attempt to make it a thing at this point)

You yourself said that any car can go 55mph, so you're saying every car can make the same turn at 55? or would the performance of the handling have a direct effect on the ability to do that? (or 'false performance' in your words)

Center of mass height
Center of mass(gravity)
Roll angular inertia
Yaw and pitch angular inertia

These are some things that effect the handling of a car, they engineered the car with that in mind, it's not an accident.
It's clear as day you can't comprehend the concept of building a brand new car, a brand new platform from the ground up that's focused on that.

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Weight, center of gravity and balance are things important to overall performance but they don't make it perform without power, grip, and braking.


There are a number of ways of increasing performance, with engine power output being the most recognisable. Tires with a high level of grip are also essential. These items can all be modified by customers after they purchase the car. Yet designing a low centre of gravity body from scratch, can only be achieved by the cars manufacturer.
-Hiromi Tamou -General Manager of Subaru engineering division.
inb4 arguing with head of subaru engineering division


I'm not even sure what you're arguing at this point...
'False Performance' isn't a thing and you already said i bought a fun car with performance potential.
Which i already knew ;)

Anything else you want to get out of your system? any other blanket assumptions to make? any more of you telling me what my own opinions and thoughts are? any other terms you want to make up? or are you done looking dumbfuck?
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Jul 23 2013 10:09am
Quote (Morphmcmanerson @ Jul 23 2013 10:47am)
You are good at 2 things FMX, making up lingo, and making assumptions about people you know nothing about.

'false performance' isn't a term, because it isn't a thing. (no matter how hard you try, over and over, i think you're on the 3rd attempt to make it a thing at this point)

You yourself said that any car can go 55mph, so you're saying every car can make the same turn at 55? or would the performance of the handling have a direct effect on the ability to do that? (or 'false performance' in your words)

Center of mass height
Center of mass(gravity)
Roll angular inertia
Yaw and pitch angular inertia

These are some things that effect the handling of a car, they engineered the car with that in mind, it's not an accident.
It's clear as day you can't comprehend the concept of building a brand new car, a brand new platform from the ground up that's focused on that.



There are a number of ways of increasing performance, with engine power output being the most recognisable. Tires with a high level of grip are also essential. These items can all be modified by customers after they purchase the car. Yet designing a low centre of gravity body from scratch, can onlybe achieved by the cars manufacturer.
-Hiromi Tamou -General Manager of Subaru engineering division.
inb4 arguing with head of subaru engineering division


I'm not even sure what you're arguing at this point...
'False Performance' isn't a thing and you already said i bought a fun car with performance potential.
Which i already knew  ;)

Anything else you want to get out of your system? any other blanket assumptions to make? any more of you telling me what my own opinions and thoughts are? any other terms you want to make up? or are you done looking dumbfuck?


Holy tits you are thick headed. I don't know how else to explain it... the 55mph comment was in a discussion about daily driving with a lot of power.

how is it not a term? Maybe I should have said fake. Oh wait, I did. It's trickery.


Have fun railing corners on public roads only to get passed by a UPS truck in a merging lane.


why are you going off on a tangent about designing a new platform? Why wouldn't you keep those things in mind while designing a new autocross car for hairdressers?

S2k take 2.


Oh so the head engineer agreed with me. Thanks for pointing that out. At least we are on the same page.

Yes you can modify the engine for more power (and void your warranty). They gave you a shit platform in the way of response to mods. Cool. They didn't give you grippy tires because that would have been boring...

So your groundbreaking point is they designed a lightweight 2 seat sports coupe with a low center of gravity? Really? I thought they would put 33" baja claws on it with 22" rims... why wouldn't they design it with a low COG? That would be asinine.


The performance potential is there like anything else. It will just cost you more.


if that is the best you have then give up. You are posting evidence that supports my argument more than your own.


I liked the personal attacks you threw out in the post before. You made an incorrect assumption about me. As for mine, HAVE you ever raced anything? Hmm?
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Jul 23 2013 10:24am
Raced a car once
Hangs out on a gaming forum site to argue about cars endlessly
Really?
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Jul 23 2013 10:53am
Quote (IB0T @ Jul 23 2013 11:24am)
Raced a car once
Hangs out on a gaming forum site to argue about cars endlessly
Really?


Im bored. If that's what you think I am carry on. Why post?
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Jul 23 2013 11:20am
Quote (Morphmcmanerson @ Jul 23 2013 01:34pm)
for some reason? lol

Tell us the title of that thread if you would...


Yes, he was asking if the brz/frs was any good and then went on to say that he was looking for raw power over handling.... Like I said I'm not sure why it went on for 20 pages with that statement. Or maybe you overlooked/ignored that post.
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Jul 23 2013 12:54pm
FMX, the only point you have made this thread is that the brz has good handling, and because it's good, that's a 'fake performance'

Fake performance, false performance, these are not real things. This is a term you made up in this thread to attack the BRZ.
Your entire platform to why the brz is shit, is because you made up a word and it's meaning to define that.

Want to know how i know it's not a real term? ... google.

The fact you are trying to argue that a car's suspension offers 'fake performance' just shows how very little you know.

So while you're making up words and spending 5 replys attempting to verify them, or back them up, it was a waste of time.


Want to know if i raced? yup.
Want to know more? why don't you start up your favorite past-time, e-stalking strangers.

Quote (FMX_89 @ Jul 15 2013 12:49pm)
Its been done. He is so stupid I found his forum account on the turbo dodges site in 5 minutes.

I also have his current address, his old address at his parents house, all of his mother's contact information, and some more stuff just from receipts he posted out of defense that he didn't blur anything out on.


That's what you like to do right? find people on the internet, get their addresses, their phone numbers, their credit card numbers?




You're such a joke.
Let me know when you want to make an agrument with facts
I'll be waiting.

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Jul 23 2013 12:56pm
Quote (Epicexecution @ Jul 23 2013 12:20pm)
Yes, he was asking if the brz/frs was any good and then went on to say that he was looking for raw power over handling.... Like I said I'm not sure why it went on for 20 pages with that statement. Or maybe you overlooked/ignored that post.


Nope, that wasn't the title of the thread.

try again.
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Jul 23 2013 01:46pm
These threads make great reads for taking a shit on the clock rofl
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Jul 23 2013 02:09pm
Quote (Morphmcmanerson @ Jul 23 2013 01:54pm)
FMX, the only point you have made this thread is that the brz has good handling, and because it's good, that's a 'fake performance'

Fake performance, false performance, these are not real things. This is a term you made up in this thread to attack the BRZ.
Your entire platform to why the brz is shit, is because you made up a word and it's meaning to define that.

Want to know how i know it's not a real term? ... google.

The fact you are trying to argue that a car's suspension offers 'fake performance' just shows how very little you know.

So while you're making up words and spending 5 replys attempting to verify them, or back them up, it was a waste of time.


Want to know if i raced? yup.
Want to know more? why don't you start up your favorite past-time, e-stalking strangers.



That's what you like to do right? find people on the internet, get their addresses, their phone numbers, their credit card numbers?




You're such a joke.
Let me know when you want to make an agrument with facts
I'll be waiting.



You are a broken record. I don't E stalk. It looks like you are E stalking me by quoting something I said a week ago. I made my point clear enough that everyone but you got it on page 1. I've countered every point you have tried to make. Now you want to argue semantics. I'm satisfied. Case closed.
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Jul 23 2013 02:11pm
Quote (FMX_89 @ Jul 23 2013 03:09pm)
You are a broken record.  I don't E stalk.  It looks like you are E stalking me by quoting something I said a week ago. I made my point clear enough that everyone but you got it on page 1. I've countered every point you have tried to make. Now you want to argue semantics. I'm satisfied.  Case closed.


Still the jesus of this au forum . Any updates on the bird ?
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