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Mar 8 2011 02:00pm
Quote (DarkByDesign @ Mar 8 2011 02:48pm)
BHP and WHP have a direct correlation.

If a car makes xx BHP and xx WHP, raise the BHP and its going to raise the WHP by the same percentage most likely.

Drivetrain loss would stay about the same.


Roughly. But what I'm saying is I'm talking about whp, not bhp.
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Mar 8 2011 02:02pm
Quote (Horsepower @ Mar 8 2011 02:53pm)
yeah, 210bhp sounds accurate. like i said, chassis dynos can be very inaccurate. they either cater to a lower hp bracket of customers, so its adjusted to read on the high side to make people happier, or their average customer bracket is over a certain mark and their dyno is never adjusted for anyone else that rolls in.

for example, there's 2-3 dynos in vancouver that get used to tune on. one reads typically low, and the other typically read high. you can go do 3 pulls on the low reading one, then 3 pulls on each of the higher ones. wanna know what the average difference in power readings are? 15-20%. truthfully i've grown not to trust chassis dyno numbers. engine dynos are much much more accurate.


And much more expensive. Lol
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Mar 8 2011 02:03pm
Quote (DarkByDesign @ Mar 8 2011 12:02pm)
And much more expensive. Lol


yeah, but if you want the numbers to show it, then that's more accurate.
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Mar 8 2011 02:05pm
Quote (Horsepower @ Mar 8 2011 03:03pm)
yeah, but if you want the numbers to show it, then that's more accurate.


We're talking about 20 year olds tinkering with Honda motors. They don't have the money for a serious car, they dont have the money for a serious dyno.
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#5865
Mar 8 2011 02:09pm
Quote (DarkByDesign @ Mar 8 2011 12:05pm)
We're talking about 20 year olds tinkering with Honda motors. They don't have the money for a serious car, they dont have the money for a serious dyno.

with like 5-8g's you can get a 400hp little civic that would smash on all kinds' of cars. + take it to the track and it will smash on their too brah ! don't hate. just sayinn
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#5866
Mar 8 2011 02:18pm
Quote (DarkByDesign @ Mar 8 2011 04:05pm)
We're talking about 20 year olds tinkering with Honda motors. They don't have the money for a serious car, they dont have the money for a serious dyno.


that is just a sad statement. and tho whoever said 200-210 tops.... This is the honda thread so unless you know please don't spout off. I will be going for 250-275 to the wheels on an almost stock block. Easily done. Northeast has the best tuner around for honda's.. Any way my friend runs a turbo stock b18 in his integra and does 280 to the wheels daily and can push it a bit further and still be safe. I personally will be staying in the 250-275 range depending on how traction turns out. I am hoping to get it all done for around 3k including the entire swap and putting the turbo kit together.

Also I am not a 20 year old just tinkering. This is my daily driver that I am sprucing up a bit. I have my fun car too.
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Mar 8 2011 02:21pm
Quote (Gutah @ Mar 8 2011 03:09pm)
with like 5-8g's you can get a 400hp little civic that would smash on all kinds' of cars. + take it to the track and it will smash on their too brah ! don't hate. just sayinn


You show me a properly built Honda pushing out 400whp on an 5-8 grand budget please

For 8-9 you can get a used WS6 and start out at 320hp, 5.2 second 0-60 and low 13's on the strip.

Quote (DuckManParkey @ Mar 8 2011 03:18pm)
that is just a sad statement. and tho whoever said 200-210 tops.... This is the honda thread so unless you know please don't spout off. I will be going for 250-275 to the wheels on an almost stock block. Easily done. Northeast has the best tuner around for honda's.. Any way my friend runs a turbo stock b18 in his integra and does 280 to the wheels daily and can push it a bit further and still be safe. I personally will be staying in the 250-275 range depending on how traction turns out. I am hoping to get it all done for around 3k including the entire swap and putting the turbo kit together.

Also I am not a 20 year old just tinkering. This is my daily driver that I am sprucing up a bit. I have my fun car too.


Lol that's every Honda driver's defense "I just want my DD a little faster"

3k for a turbo'd car? Lol did you give the seller +1 eebay Rep?

And you act like stock block is a big deal. The 2.0L Ecotec can handle 600hp on stock block, rofl.

Like I said, start out with a real base for a starting car. When you are worrying about traction issues at 250hp you need to rethink your priorities.


This is one of my favorite quotes from the Ion LSR Article-

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By the end of 2001 they were producingbetween 850 and 900 hp and still using a stock block, stock timing chain, reground stock cams and stock cam drive gearsslotted to allow changes in cam phasing.


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Mar 8 2011 02:41pm
Quote (DarkByDesign @ Mar 8 2011 03:21pm)
You show me a properly built Honda pushing out 400whp on an 5-8 grand budget please

For 8-9 you can get a used WS6 and start out at 320hp, 5.2 second 0-60 and low 13's on the strip.



Lol that's every Honda driver's defense "I just want my DD a little faster"

3k for a turbo'd car? Lol did you give the seller +1 eeebay Rep?

And you act like stock block is a big deal. The 2.0L Ecotec can handle 600hp on stock block, rofl.

Like I said, start out with a real base for a starting car. When you are worrying about traction issues at 250hp you need to rethink your priorities.


This is one of my favorite quotes from the Ion LSR Article-


Yea but with that 3k it'd still be faster than your Saturn!
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#5869
Mar 8 2011 02:42pm
Quote (Avoid @ Mar 8 2011 03:41pm)
Yea but with that 3k it'd still be faster than your Saturn!


With 3k my Saturn would be equally as fast.

The point you're making is moot.
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#5870
Mar 8 2011 02:57pm
Quote (Avoid @ Mar 8 2011 01:45am)
Just do a complete swap. ECU n all.


cba atm, using it as a DD nothing else.

Got the engine sat in my garage now, will strip it down clean it up and replace any bits that need to be replaced when i get some time off work/college.
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