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Jan 3 2011 11:08am
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Oh this is going to be good comedy. What machine work has been done to the block? Has it been decked? Honed w/ stress plate? Align honed the mains? Rod and main caps sized for roundness and correct clearance? Pistons/rods weighed and matched? Rotating assembly balanced?


Do you own a Dial indicator? Are you trained to use a Vernier caliper (properly)? Do you know what main and rod bearing tolerances you are going to use?




I understand you want a learning experience and a fun project but I'd suggest letting a professional do the machine work and assemble the short block. You can do it yourself but don't cry when you have 8oz of bearing shavings in the oil pan before the rings even seat well.
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Jan 3 2011 11:34am
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Oh this is going to be good comedy.  What machine work has been done to the block?  Has it been decked?  Honed w/ stress plate?  Align honed the mains?  Rod and main caps sized for roundness and correct clearance?  Pistons/rods weighed and matched?  Rotating assembly balanced?


Do you own a Dial indicator?  Are you trained to use a Vernier caliper (properly)?  Do you know what main and rod bearing tolerances you are going to use?




I understand you want a learning experience and a fun project but I'd suggest letting a professional do the machine work and assemble the short block.  You can do it yourself but don't cry when you have 8oz of bearing shavings in the oil pan before the rings even seat well.


I'm not doing it all myself. The guy with the 600whp accord I have mentioned before will be helping me, and he knows what hes doing. I have to learn somehow, which is why this is an extra head with extra block. Its not like I'm doing the work on my current engine.

I'll keep you updated.
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Sounds pretty killer man, I can't wait til I can get some more money comin in so I can start a new build.
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Jan 3 2011 11:41am
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I'm not doing it all myself. The guy with the 600whp accord I have mentioned before will be helping me, and he knows what hes doing. I have to learn somehow, which is why this is an extra head with extra block. Its not like I'm doing the work on my current engine.

I'll keep you updated.


Alright. It just seems like 4cyl guys (regardless of brand) are the only ones that tackle bottom end building on their own. Yes you have to learn somewhere, no, it shouldn't be from trial and error. There is a LOT of knowledge, experience, and skill required to properly build a performance engine. I can't even begin to explain it all. Just know that most of the ones that walk into it blindly walk out with much lighter pockets. It's the one thing that the best in the business still have a specialist do. .0001" can be the difference in running well and seizing on startup. If you go through with it monitor your oil changes very closely and cut the filter to see what is going on.
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Jan 3 2011 11:45am
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Alright.  It just seems like 4cyl guys (regardless of brand) are the only ones that tackle bottom end building on their own.  Yes you have to learn somewhere, no, it shouldn't be from trial and error.  There is a LOT of knowledge, experience, and skill required to properly build a performance engine.  I can't even begin to explain it all.  Just know that most of the ones that walk into it blindly walk out with much lighter pockets.  It's the one thing that the best in the business still have a specialist do.  .0001" can be the difference in running well and seizing on startup.  If you go through with it monitor your oil changes very closely and cut the filter to see what is going on.


Yea I understand. I would never do something like this alone anyways.

I was hoping to get started today, all I'm waiting for are some piston rings which Honda is going to Next Day to me. So hopefully I can get started tomorrow.
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Jan 3 2011 11:47am
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Yea I understand. I would never do something like this alone anyways.

I was hoping to get started today, all I'm waiting for are some piston rings which Honda is going to Next Day to me. So hopefully I can get started tomorrow.


Eagle rods, JE pistons, aftermarket bearings, and stock rings?
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Jan 3 2011 11:50am
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Eagle rods, JE pistons, aftermarket bearings, and stock rings?


nononono, the JE Pistons came with rings. The Honda ones are going to be for the engine thats in the Integra right now. Which will be getting dropped into my buddy's EK Hatch, which I get the motor from my other friends Integra so I have an extra incase this doesnt work out.

/e Its like a 3way trade so everyone comes out on top.

/e If you remember my buddy totalled his integra. We put the motor in his EG and took the D16 out. He now decided he'd rather do a turbo d16 build rather than an N/A B18B. So he put the D16 back in and gave me the B18B.

If that clears anything up, thought I already posted all this.

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Jan 3 2011 11:54am
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nononono, the JE Pistons came with rings. The Honda ones are going to be for the engine thats in the Integra right now. Which will be getting dropped into my buddy's EK Hatch, which I get the motor from my other friends Integra so I have an extra incase this doesnt work out.

/e Its like a 3way trade so everyone comes out on top.

/e If you remember my buddy totalled his integra. We put the motor in his EG and took the D16 out. He now decided he'd rather do a turbo d16 build rather than an N/A B18B. So he put the D16 back in and gave me the B18B.

If that clears anything up, thought I already posted all this.


I just haven't bothered to keep track of the LEGO swapping. What rings came with the JE's? Is this going to be boosted or stay N/A?
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Jan 3 2011 11:58am
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I just haven't bothered to keep track of the LEGO swapping.  What rings came with the JE's?  Is this going to be boosted or stay N/A?


I'd like to boost it, but I'd pick up another Integra if I was going to. So this will stay N/A.
They came with the Pistons in a kit, so I assumed they were JE as well.
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