Quote (PalmerFG @ May 26 2010 12:13pm)

But its not a normal civic, its a mugen one...........

Quote (PalmerFG @ May 26 2010 02:13pm)

But its not a normal civic, its a mugen one...........

Quote (CultureOfWaste @ May 26 2010 12:18pm)

BUT IT'S NOT A NORMAL DODGE SPIRIT, IT'S A R/T ONE....

Quote (TURBO_DODGE @ 26 May 2010 19:15)

and its still slower then a stock spirit r/t...... which is 20 years older fyi...

all it is, is a name. there is nothing about it that makes it stand out other then then name thats slapped on it...

it compares in performance to a hyundai tiburon... which is decent, but nothing worthy of anything other then title of being a peppy DD.

Quote (PalmerFG @ May 26 2010 12:21pm)

You do realise that the mojority of collectors cars, for expamle, the fiat 500 are not fast. Being a collectors car doesn't mean it has to be fast, just exclusive, and thus expensive.

Its irrelivant to compare it to a stock r/t and once again, proves your in inhibitions to look at something from more than one angle.

Quote (TURBO_DODGE @ 26 May 2010 19:28)

no, cuz its still a civic.

its like taking a cavalier to a collector car auction lol... what its badged whether its a special edition or z24, it dont matter cuz its still the same car, its still a daily driver. theres nothing that makes it stand out at all in looks or performance.

so therefor, a car could be rare, but has nothing more then that to back it up. theres no performance or innovation, or anything.


everyones view on a collector car is different but one thing is certain, that a civic or cavalier will never be a collector car.


now if the civic actually had somthing going for it like the ford escort rs8, then it could be a collector. (escort rs8 have a v8 in it and makes 400hp) THAT makes it stick out from the crowd.

now if the mugen civi had a 350hp v8 or a v8 in it thn it could be a collector car cuz tis unique. but it dont, it still has an underpowered engine with no torque, which isnt any different then every other civic, its just slightly "tuned".

a slight tune or mod wont make it a collector, it has to be outrageous and one of a kind, like the escort with the v8

Quote (PalmerFG @ May 26 2010 12:36pm)

Again, you have missed the point. It doesnt have to have power, to be a collectors car. Morris minors, Triump heralds, Rover P1's they are all slow as shit, but collectors cars. Power has NOTHING to do with it.

And so because it also has a civic badge on the back it can't possibly be a collectors car? Because its still a civic right?

Quote (TURBO_DODGE @ 26 May 2010 19:50)

i said innovative or one of a kind, some vehicles power makes them unique or one of a kind.

the civic is still a civic

other then mugen stamped on it, it makes them nothing special compared to a standard civic other then SLIGHTLY faster.

its like taking to identicle corvettes, leaving one stock and putting a CAI and exahust on the other and calling it a collector even though the difference between the two is BARELY noticeable. theres nothing unique about it, or innovative. its the same car, just with an extra badge on it.

Quote (TURBO_DODGE @ May 26 2010 10:47am)

i did a full car rebuild from wheel bearings, suspension, re wiring of whole car, tie rods, rack and pinon etc etc.

just in performance shit to make more hp and torque, like MAYBE 3-5k. i could look at receipts and give an exact number but nn for that imo.

i have no idea what power is till i dyno it. but it should be in the 450whp range at 25 psi with alky injection.

see, i save a lot of money building the r/t's cuz the stock rods and cranks are forged chromoly and the stock tranny/drive axels can hold up to 600hp (stock trans is a getrag heavy duty 5 speed)

so theres nn for to fork up loads of cash when the stock shit works perfect

Quote (DarkByDesign @ May 26 2010 01:28pm)

Um

450hp with 25psi and alky? ROFL.

Friend of mine in town here has a Redline that puts down 450 at 13psi with no alky

lmao