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Feb 20 2016 09:44am
Quote (DuckManParkey @ Feb 20 2016 12:23am)
still is a saying... To make up for the difference in displacement add FI. on a 4 cyl car it is usually a cheaper path and costs a lot less to do vs higher displacement engines. That is why you don't see many turbo/super charged (aftermarket) v8's on the street. It costs a lot of money to do. a fuck load more than turboing a b18 to 400+ whp. So yes in a sense they are similar. I spent almost $2000 for full exhaust on my c5.... For that same price I was able to turbo my stock b16 in my hatch and make 300whp in a 2000 pound car... both ran similar times dollar for dollar*in mods only*

My biggest problem is with people who lack the respect for other enthusiasts despite what kind of car they are in to. A lot of those import small motor guys could easily be doing bigger displacement engines but they don't want to, it is what they are in to.

Personally I think the feeling of a nice turbo light 4cyl car is totally different than one of a v8*I have owned plenty of both* they both have their fun aspects to them.

Let's also not forget that pretty much every scene has it's tools also... Not just the imports.



There is no replacement for displacement. Get this through your head. Boosting a b18 is Boosting a b18. It is not replacing anything.

That's all we are saying. I don't care what you choose to drive. Broodwich's arguing points were false. I don't think anyone was trying to get your panties twisted up.
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Quote (ChowYunFat @ Feb 17 2016 04:23pm)
Dunno; do high school kids count as people?


Hey I drive a bimmer in high school lol

E46 330Ci Navy Blue

/e next year if I go to Alaska I'm going to well it and either get a Subaru Brz for the looks or get a BMW 545i, straight pipe or put a nice exhaust on and chip it with the JB4.

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Hey I drive a bimmer in high school lol

E46 330Ci Navy Blue

/e next year if I go to Alaska I'm going to well it and either get a Subaru Brz for the looks or get a BMW 545i, straight pipe or put a nice exhaust on and chip it with the JB4.


Your parents should have gone to Plan B.
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Feb 20 2016 12:35pm
lots of 9-10 second civics in the 1/4 here in quebec but they dont get much faster, as for 4 bangers world record is 6,29 in th 1/4 and its the track owners in napierville dragway that managed it out of an GM ecotech engine so....
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There's been some pretty fast civics on track.
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Your parents should have gone to Plan B.


Why cause I can afford shit that you cant in highschool?
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There is no replacement for displacement. Get this through your head. Boosting a b18 is Boosting a b18. It is not replacing anything.

That's all we are saying. I don't care what you choose to drive. Broodwich's arguing points were false. I don't think anyone was trying to get your panties twisted up.


But bigger isn't always better. It's what you can do with what you have to work with. Obviously a big block will produce bigger numbers but I, personally, am impressed with HP per Liter numbers.

A stock Honda B16B produces 185Hp out of a DOHC VTEC 1.6L motor. That is 115 Hp per Liter. And that is bone stock. If that doesn't impress you my friend then I don't know what to tell you.

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Why cause I can afford shit that you cant in highschool?


Nope try again

You want to buy a BRZ for looks or straight pipe a 545i. Got it.


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But bigger isn't always better. It's what you can do with what you have to work with. Obviously a big block will produce bigger numbers but I, personally, am impressed with HP per Liter numbers.

A stock Honda B16B produces 185Hp out of a DOHC VTEC 1.6L motor. That is 115 Hp per Liter. And that is bone stock. If that doesn't impress you my friend then I don't know what to tell you.


See we are going off on a tangent again. No one is trying to roflstomp hondas. What we are talking about is the mathematical FACT that there is no replacement for displacement. End of discussion. I'm not saying you should have more. I don't care what you do. All of my cars are small blocks...

As for your tangent, the HP/L thing has never intrigued me. I really don't care since it is irrelevant in motorsports. And last I checked NHRA Pro Stock engines are the undisputed kings of hp/L for naturally aspirated automobile engines. They are over 180hp/L. Single cam in block 500 ci big blocks with hemispherical heads just like the American manufacturers designed back in the late 50's. Pro stock engines would make more but they have a 10,500rpm limit per class rules. If they were allowed to buzz them as high as they want they would be over 200hp/L.
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Feb 20 2016 09:17pm
Quote (Treyarch @ Feb 20 2016 01:33pm)
Hey I drive a bimmer in high school lol

E46 330Ci Navy Blue

/e next year if I go to Alaska I'm going to well it and either get a Subaru Brz for the looks or get a BMW 545i, straight pipe or put a nice exhaust on and chip it with the JB4.


They don't make jb4 for 545 only 535
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They don't make jb4 for 545 only 535


Ki8da hesitant on what either 335i chipped or a nice sounding 545i v
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