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Quote (Sopranos @ Aug 3 2014 01:32am)
well 3600ish pounds isnt that bad of a power to weight ratio for your average street car, no?


pft maybe for your non corvette cars
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Quote (FMX_89 @ Aug 3 2014 09:20pm)
Dyno's vary a lot depending on type.  If your car was run on an eddy current or loaded dyno it will read lower than a dynojet.  Some shops that have too good to be true numbers on the internet are known to have higher reading dynos. Evolution and lethal are 2 such mustang shops.  There are lots of ways to inflate numbers.


mustangs with these mods hit 420 to the wheels all the time, on tons of dynos...

Quote (FMX_89 @ Aug 4 2014 02:38am)
You should stomp a mudhole in his ass.  Your car weighs 3150. That's a half second advantage in the 1/4 with the same power.


I think "should" is the key word here. On paper, the vette wins, Yes the vette is lighter and has about the same power, but I bet if you lined up ride and sapranos in the quarter and had em race, it would be pretty close. Sapranos has automatic which always trumps manual in the quarter, and traction becomes a huge issue with both cars.

I bet it would be closer than you guys think
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Aug 3 2014 09:20pm
whhat tranny are you running and gears in the rear torque convertor
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Quote (Epicexecution @ Aug 3 2014 09:55pm)
mustangs with these mods hit 420 to the wheels all the time, on tons of dynos...



I think "should" is the key word here.  On paper, the vette wins, Yes the vette is lighter and has about the same power, but I bet if you lined up ride and sapranos in the quarter and had em race, it would be pretty close. Sapranos has automatic which always trumps manual in the quarter, and traction becomes a huge issue with both cars. 

I bet it would be closer than you guys think



Did you read the post he was responding to? The guy from texas said cars are putting down more where he is at. I was explaining the difference in types of dynos and how easily they can get inflated numbers. 420 is normal for full exhaust and a tune. Get your ass of your shoulders mustang boy


As for the C5 Z06... At their power levels the auto isn't that big of an advantage with a stock stall. Autos are great for drag racing, but only after you put a converter in it. The stock stall will really limit your 60ft time because it won't flash high enough. A 6 speed car with 400whp or less really isn't all that hard to drive either. That's why the bone stock and engine bolt on only records for pretty much every model are held by a manual car. Traction should not be any issue for the vette with a drag radial on the back at that power level. He can run 315's without touching anything. Of course this is all on paper. That is why I said should. I watched a guy run a 13 in a ZL1. I don't go around talking about ZL1's only running 13's because I know what the car should do.

I think you are forgetting that a C5 Z06 can go 11's bone stock on stock tires. The record is 11.70 something I think. The bolt on record is in the 10's. Is ride that level of driver? No. Are those times in ideal conditions? Yes. From what I've seen an exhaust/tune auto 5.0 can dip into the low 12's pretty easily. It will look like a close race. At their trap speeds a half second is around 4 car lengths so you would only see a 3 length gap. It's all on the Corvette driver to not fuck it up.


Quote (FLCRACKA @ Aug 3 2014 10:20pm)
whhat tranny are you running and gears in the rear torque convertor



4L60E and are you drunk?

His rear gear is either a 2.73 or a 3.23. It's a 10 bolt.

This post was edited by FMX_89 on Aug 3 2014 09:43pm
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Junk tanny and itz a question moron he didnt state what he had for all i kno hes got a strange rear end wirh 456.


Get a th400 amd put 3.73 with a decent stall
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Quote (FMX_89 @ Aug 4 2014 03:42am)
Did you read the post he was responding to?  The guy from texas said cars are putting down more where he is at.  I was explaining the difference in types of dynos and how easily they can get inflated numbers.  420 is normal for full exhaust and a tune.  Get your ass of your shoulders mustang boy


As for the C5 Z06... At their power levels the auto isn't that big of an advantage with a stock stall. Autos are great for drag racing, but only after you put a converter in it.  The stock stall will really limit your 60ft time because it won't flash high enough.  A 6 speed car with 400whp or less really isn't all that hard to drive either.  That's why the bone stock and engine bolt on only records for pretty much every model are held by a manual car.  Traction should not be any issue for the vette with a drag radial on the back at that power level.  He can run 315's without touching anything.  Of course this is all on paper.  That is why I said should.  I watched a guy run a 13 in a ZL1.  I don't go around talking about ZL1's only running 13's because I know what the car should do.

I think you are forgetting that a C5 Z06 can go 11's bone stock on stock tires.  The record is 11.70 something I think.  The bolt on record is in the 10's.  Is ride that level of driver?  No.  Are those times in ideal conditions?  Yes.  From what I've seen an exhaust/tune auto 5.0 can dip into the low 12's pretty easily.  It will look like a close race.  At their trap speeds a half second is around 4 car lengths so you would only see a 3 length gap.  It's all on the Corvette driver to not fuck it up.


lol I see a lot of could/would/shoulds.... I'm talking about running them as they sit... fanboy glasses off. Do you not remember ride posting up his quarter mile time? If I remember correctly he ran a 2.XX 60 foot and a 12.X quarter....

it would definitely be a close race
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Quote (Epicexecution @ Aug 3 2014 10:55pm)
mustangs with these mods hit 420 to the wheels all the time, on tons of dynos...



I think "should" is the key word here.  On paper, the vette wins, Yes the vette is lighter and has about the same power, but I bet if you lined up ride and sapranos in the quarter and had em race, it would be pretty close. Sapranos has automatic which always trumps manual in the quarter, and traction becomes a huge issue with both cars. 

I bet it would be closer than you guys think


I'm confident enough in my driving that I wouldn't be too worried about it lol. I do need to ditch the hankooks on the ccws or put the stock rims and pilot sports back on though as they're pretty useless. Treadwear/road noise is great for a daily driven car though so I'm conflicted.

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lol I see a lot of could/would/shoulds.... I'm talking about running them as they sit... fanboy glasses off.  Do you not remember ride posting up his quarter mile time?  If I remember correctly he ran a 2.XX 60 foot and a 12.X quarter....

it would definitely be a close race


I shouldn't have posted that lol. I really can't stress how bad conditions were that night. The track was empty and they didn't give a fuck, and the weather was more than less than ideal.

This post was edited by ride686 on Aug 3 2014 10:05pm
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Quote (ride686 @ Aug 3 2014 11:03pm)
I'm confident enough in my driving that I wouldn't be too worried about it lol. I do need to ditch the hankooks on the ccws or put the stock rims and pilot sports back on though as they're pretty useless. Treadwear/road noise is great for a daily driven car though so I'm conflicted.


Buy some ET Streets for the stock rears and use them for track wheels.

http://www.jegs.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/PostAddtoCart?nextAvailableDate=0&orderId=15980868&langId=-1&inventoryMessage=080814&inventoryAvailable=N&partNumber_1=672-3785R&URL=OrderCalculateURLOrderItemDisplaycatEntryId*quantity*&calculationUsageId=-1&catalogId=10002&addCatEntryId=910827&storeId=10001&quantity_1=1&ddkey=http:OrderItemAdd

11's.


Quote (Epicexecution @ Aug 3 2014 11:00pm)
lol I see a lot of could/would/shoulds.... I'm talking about running them as they sit... fanboy glasses off.  Do you not remember ride posting up his quarter mile time?  If I remember correctly he ran a 2.XX 60 foot and a 12.X quarter....

it would definitely be a close race


I explained the should could would. I originally said he SHOULD stomp a mudhole in his ass. Then I explained why he should when you questioned it. I don't have any fanboy glasses on. He is driving a car that is quite a bit faster. Who is the fanboy in the bench racing argument? The guy saying the faster car should win or the guy saying the slower car will make it closer than you think? Derp.

He was also on some bullshit track in Canada btw. Those guys running the times we were talking about are running them at Cecil county, MIR, ATCO, etc. They have fly paper like track prep and Cecil county actually runs slightly down hill. His run was closer to what would happen on an actual street from the way it sounds. He trapped 116.x on that pass which is not very far off what it should do at his altitude.


Oh wait my bad. I forgot all 5.0 mustangs run 11's. Even with 80lbs of extra rotating mass from 20" Foose wheels.

This post was edited by FMX_89 on Aug 3 2014 10:18pm
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Quote (ride686 @ Aug 4 2014 04:03am)
I'm confident enough in my driving that I wouldn't be too worried about it lol. I do need to ditch the hankooks on the ccws or put the stock rims and pilot sports back on though as they're pretty useless. Treadwear/road noise is great for a daily driven car though so I'm conflicted.



I shouldn't have posted that lol. I really can't stress how bad conditions were that night. The track was empty and they didn't give a fuck, and the weather was more than less than ideal.


yeah thats understandable. Not all tracks are prepped equally unfortunately.

but yeah like fmx posted, a nice set of track wheels and a good 60 feet and I have no doubt you would bend over a mustang.
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Aug 3 2014 10:15pm
Quote (FMX_89 @ Aug 4 2014 12:07am)


As the car sits on a good track prep and my stock rims with pilot sports I'm fairly confident I could turn out an 11 second pass without much difficulty. But yeah, et streets would make it that much easier.
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