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Dec 4 2013 04:59pm
Quote (Morphmcmanerson @ Oct 17 2013 08:20pm)
w/o vortex generator
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v476/rammsteinmatt/evowithoutVG.jpg


with vortex generator
http://i44.tinypic.com/qq4k5d.png


:rofl:


Quote (antidevil158 @ Oct 17 2013 07:48pm)
Mostly for style but it does has a function. They are called vortex generators, you can find them on airplanes as well.

Ill draw us a pic


w/o vortex generator
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v476/rammsteinmatt/evowithoutVG.jpg

with vortex generator
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v476/rammsteinmatt/evowithVG.jpg

the red ares shows high pressure air, the blue shows low pressure air, and the orange shows approximate air stream over vehicle

sorry for the poor quality, but im doing what i can with what i got

especially note the differences in the airflow (orange) over the rear window, and its proximity to the rear window, which can be characterized by the sixe of the low pressure bubble (flow seperation) on the back window

so what does this show. if you concentrate on the VG section you will notice a difference. one (the one whith the huge VG) lets more orange in closer to the car's back window.

this means 2 things.
1. there is more airflow to the rear wing (if you have one)
2. the low pressure bubble behind the rear window is reduced.

low pressure bubbles (or seperated flow). in short, they are bad for aerodynamics.
think of this: how does a vacuum cleaner work? well it sucks air into it. how does it do that? by pumping air out thereby creating a low pressure, and the sucking is the air rushing in to equalize the pressures (its really that simple )
so effectively low pressure bubbles "suck" cars back (this is one of the reasons for rear diffusers and vortex generators, among other things)

how the vg reduces low pressure bubbles. the vg is exactly what it is named for. it creates vorticies. if you dont know a vortex is basically a "whirlpool" you might see in a draining bathub/sink, or a river. but this vortex is made in the air (because air is a fluid, just like water is a fluid) the vortex, if you notice, has a big side, and a small side. at the tip of the vg is the small side. as distance from the vg increases, the size increases. what this does, is infringes on the low pressure bubble, and "mixes" higher pressure air, with the top layer of the low pressure bubble, effectively moving the pressure gradient closer to the car than a non-VGed evo

so what the VG does, it reduces drag on the vehicle [by reducing the low pressure on the rear window] and it increases downforce [by allowing more air to pass over the rear wing's airfoil]
however the vg's also do create their own drag, because the frontal area technically would create a high pressure region, but the benefit outweighs the cost in this case


here is mitsu's official technical write-up on the subject (and they have real CFD pictures!!!!)
http://www.mitsubishi-motors.com/corporate/about%5Fus/technology/review/e/pdf/2004/16E%5F03.pdf


yeah ive seen semis with them on the back of the cab right before the gap between truck and trailer. thanks for the clarification and the real name of them
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Dec 4 2013 10:02pm
Quote (Morphmcmanerson @ Oct 17 2013 08:20pm)
w/o vortex generator
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v476/rammsteinmatt/evowithoutVG.jpg


with vortex generator
http://i44.tinypic.com/qq4k5d.png


lmfao now that is the best post in this section in a while by far
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Dec 4 2013 11:20pm
You're never going to get 110hp out of the parts list you mentioned... :rofl:
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Quote (Megapixel @ Dec 5 2013 01:20am)
You're never going to get 110hp out of the parts list you mentioned... :rofl:


You sir, don't know anything about Evo.



This post was edited by TiMasse on Dec 5 2013 07:14am
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Dec 5 2013 07:54am
Quote (Megapixel @ Dec 5 2013 01:20am)
You're never going to get 110hp out of the parts list you mentioned... :rofl:


Its a turbo car, stock they peak like 20 psi and taper off to like 14 psi at redline. With a tune on pump gas it'll hold like 26 psi. The power he wants is not at all unrealistic. Stuff is gonna start breaking though.

This post was edited by ride686 on Dec 5 2013 07:54am
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Quote (ride686 @ Dec 5 2013 09:54am)
Its a turbo car, stock they peak like 20 psi and taper off to like 14 psi at redline. With a tune on pump gas it'll hold like 26 psi. The power he wants is not at all unrealistic. Stuff is gonna start breaking though.


Stock block can handle it, it,s not a subaru! :P

With a decent tune it should still be very reliable. I mgith burn my stock clutch in few weeks though.
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Quote (TiMasse @ Dec 5 2013 01:55pm)
Stock block can handle it, it,s not a subaru! :P

With a decent tune it should still be very reliable. I mgith burn my stock clutch in few weeks though.


Again, I've owned one of these cars lol. They are not well made. There are so many things that like to go.
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Quote (ride686 @ Dec 5 2013 02:37pm)
Again, I've owned one of these cars lol. They are not well made. There are so many things that like to go.


Stop hating. These cars are one of the top reliable inducted engine.

If you had problems with yours its eighter:

- You dont know how to drive
- Modded it wrong
- Wasnt properly tuned
- Someone beat the shyt out of it and sold it to you.


Hater gonna hate, 4g63 is a legend. That's it
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Dec 5 2013 02:22pm
Quote (TiMasse @ Dec 5 2013 03:07pm)
Stop hating. These cars are one of the top reliable inducted engine.

If you had problems with yours its eighter:

- You dont know how to drive
- Modded it wrong
- Wasnt properly tuned
- Someone beat the shyt out of it and sold it to you.


Hater gonna hate, 4g63 is a legend. That's it


see you in a couple weeks when stuff starts to break then.
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Dec 5 2013 02:38pm
Quote (TiMasse @ Dec 5 2013 04:07pm)
Stop hating. These cars are one of the top reliable inducted engine.

If you had problems with yours its eighter:

- You dont know how to drive
- Modded it wrong
- Wasnt properly tuned
- Someone beat the shyt out of it and sold it to you.


Hater gonna hate, 4g63 is a legend. That's it


lol, have fun while it lasts. The issues with these cars are widespread to say the least. The motor isn't the main issue, though that's not to say it doesn't have its problems. Its literally everything else haha.
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