Why don't muscle cars make good DD's? I hear everyone talking about how great their MPG is. Modding one is pointless when you can buy a faster car that will end up being MUCH more reliable, so the main reason someone could possibly want to mod one is because you "want to".

Do you know anything about cars? Are you talking about 60's muscle cars or new "muscle" cars? If you are talking about the old ones then yes, it's because you "want to" and because they are an investment. Just like real estate. They aren't making any more and their value is only going up.



If you are talking about the new ones then yeah, they get good gas mileage for a performance vehicle but it is not the gas mileage you would look for if you were buying a DD (like a honda). 25mpg is not 35mpg.




What car can you buy that will be faster while being much more reliable in the end? Please educate me. The modern "muscle" cars have the best engines in production if you are looking to mod something. They are the MOST mod friendly cars in production. Your logic absolutely fails.

are you just plain retarded?

take a corvette Z06, that is one of the fastest N/A production cars for under 100k
there is nothing faster than a Z06 that is more reliable.

a 200-300k lambo/ferrari is reliable, ive seen ferraris well over 100k miles

but the problem is the cost of maintance, most have to have a clutch replaced every 5-10k which is usually around 6-7k$
you get my drift.

there is nothing in production right ow for under 100k that is faster than a z06, cost less for maintenance, and will last well over 200k miles.

A GTR is faster than a Z06, and I can't see the new Z06s lasting that long at all. The maintainence is less though.

Why wouldn't it last long? It should last longer than a C5 Z06 and they have no problem hitting 150-200k miles.




"take a corvette Z06, that is one of the fastest N/A production cars for under 100k"


"there is nothing faster than a Z06 that is more reliable."



You should read things more carefully next time.

lol calm down, I missed one thing, and honestly I can see a GTR lasting just as long with proper maintenance.

And I can't see it lasting as long as a C5 Z06. Theres a reason they based the LS9 of an LS3 and not an LS7. Also, I've heard from reviews that they seemed to have alot of random problems.

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Unless you take the car to track days every weekend you won't see those problems. If you take it to track days you also won't expect it to last 200k miles.


They based the LS9 off the LS3 because the LS7 block was designed with N/A in mind. The cylinder walls are too thin for GM's likings when it comes to boost. That said, There are 1200rwhp+ turbo LS7 blocks out there that are holding up just fine. GM didn't want a boosted 427 in the ZR1. The government never would have let that slide. They originally intended to have 600-650rwhp in the ZR1 instead of 600-650bhp. The government squashed that idea. So if they used the LS7 block they would have to put it on ~4psi of boost or de-stroke it and put it on more boost. Either way they are left with an inefficient engine.



The only real problem with them is the dry sump oil system will suck an air bubble under a certain number of sustained G through a sweeping left (I think, may be right) hand corner. That causes a momentary oil pressure drop which can lead to damage. It's a fairly easy fix and the 08+ Z06's have a fix implemented from GM. It's one of those things they couldn't have caught in testing. There are only a few tracks in the world that have that exact corner type. Conditions have to be perfect for it to cause an issue.

Radical >

Same engine

Yeahh but still

MOOO :]