Acura and Lexus couldn't possibly be know for their reliability because they are re-badged Honda and Toyota products which are known to be very reliable cars... It's because people don't drive them as hard. Yeah, right. Driving a VW hard is what causes the electrical system to disintegrate. Have you ever actually worked on anything or have you been behind a desk reading about this stuff your whole life?

One of the big reasons the German manufacturers get the bad reputation they do for reliability and service issues is their incessant need to over engineer their products. The Germans as a people have been known for doing that for over a century. Pull BMW up beside a Lexus and pop both hoods. By simply looking at the engine compartments you should be able to deduce that one car will be much harder to work on than the other and for absolutely no reason. They do things just because they can. Those same things don't make the car run any faster or more efficiently. These things are not generalized public misinformation. It is simple common sense. I don't really care for any of the brands mentioned here so don't think I'm bias either.


Also, driving a modern car "hard" should not adversely effect reliability if the preventative maintenance is done like it should be. In many cases driving a car "hard" is better than driving it "easy."

lol you are wrong. acura is by no means luxury... just because its called luxury does not mean it is. so now your saying micheal kors is in the luxury jewelry market? so you dont know your cars nor your watches. its sad how people on the internet think they know about everything... at the end of the day its pretty damn obvious youve never worked on a car nor have you ever driven any of these cars to know. its okay buddy, i dont blame you for not knowing, your just not in the right tax bracket.

So in you're opinion it's not luxury, and anyone else calling it so is wrong. Are you fucking insane or do you actually believe that shit spewing like a septic tank from your mouth?

Please stop posting. Find me a single piece of evidence that suggest Acura isn't a luxury brand. If they're not luxury what are they? Michael Kors is a luxury watch brand. It's marked at the upper-middle class, just as Rolex is. They're marketed at different segments but that doesn't make them different. You clearly don't understand anything about the market.

I really laugh at your personal attacks. Why would someone know what a luxury car is because they work on one? And I really find it funny that you think I'm poor

Where does this forum find people? Key example of why you shouldn't give people who should be in group homes Internet access.

Oh and you still can't reply to any arguments. If you reply to this post doing the same thing you're admitting to being an idiot who couldn't respond and had to resort to strawmans and childish flames (this isn't the playground )

stopped reading at "you're opinion"

its an entry-mid level luxury brand, just as is lexus, infiniti, cadillac, lincoln ext.

Just going to leave this here

my 2007 335i coupe is the best car ive ever had

all tan leather interior with some nice wood grain

bought it with 92,000 miles, it has 105,000 now, have had it for 2 years and havent had a single problem

had to replace rear brake pads and discs only cost me $450 in parts/labor

i get about 22 city and 35 highway mpg with an aftermarket tune running 14-16psi on the turbos

hope this helps, out of your options i would pick bmw 3 series every time


also not to mention, the 2007-2010 models are under $20,000 for the 4door and low miles, you can get one with under 50k and certified pre-owned for around $22,000

This post was edited by t9x on Dec 15 2014 11:09am

No you read the whole thing, discovered you had nothing to refute then decided to post a comment that makes you look like a 12 year old. Can't find anything to talk about, talk about grammar.

Please give me the next idiot who doesn't have any arguments.

acura and lexus are economy class luxury cars, like the hyundai equus.

they are an upper level brand of a parent company that produces cars with better options on a different line for a different market

for instance, there are some cheap and non luxury acura and lexus cars, and there are some nice and luxurious cars.

but for BMW, there is no cheap economy car, it is all luxury. i don't even think they offer cloth seats in new models, it would probably cost you extra. same goes for benz, jag, porsche, etc

LOL, so now your resorting to personal attacks and called using your own opinion. Buddy i think its time u stopped posting. Micheal kors is NOT a luxury brand. I dont only work on these cars, I own/drive them. I do not live in a group home.. yet i think you do... and their marketed at different segments for different people.. rolex and micheal kors are 2 completely different brands.. and micheal kors mimics rolex.. its more of a fashion brand then LUXURY brand. but you wouldnt understand that. and ACURA labels itself as a luxury brand.. no one THINK of acura when someone thinks luxury.. Lexus RECENTLY became part of it... sigh i feel bad for you. and this is my last reply.. i hate arguing with idiots.



I would say entry-level with a grimace for acura.. they just dont compare to any luxuyr brand.
Infinity/Lexus is mid in my opinion.. after driving the gs/is/q series I thought they were pretty cool. still dont think the price matches the value.
and the american cars are just meh. I dont care for their "luxury" sedans. never drven one and I dont see them on the road as often, nor have I worked on any of them.

This post was edited by TG3 on Dec 15 2014 12:50pm