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Jan 29 2015 06:41pm
Quote (SlyGoSu @ Jan 29 2015 02:37pm)
Been pretty busy with work lately actually. I just got back from Toyota Canada Inc. head office for some training actually.

I got the G35 transmission mounted on the car though, notched the shifter hole so it would fit. The shifter sits farther back so it looks like I'm permanently in 4th.
Gonna take some getting used to but I'm sure I won't have an issue with it.

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It pretty much just turned into a lets see what we can squeeze out of this tiny 4 banger kind of thing actually.

I changed my whole head set up though. I'm running the most aggressive OEM cams (N1) on the VE head.
I was considering going with Kelford cams since they're pretty much the only company that makes cams for the VE head (that I trust) but I don't think I need them as of yet.

Running OEM det oil pan, I have a tomei one somewhere on the shelves at the unit so I just have to go look for it.

You can run the Tomei solid 270/270 set up with the 8270 and it will run REAL nice, but you've gotta do springs/retainers/lifters.



A lot of great solid info, helps a lot thanks.

I was actually leaning to a bit milder on the Tomei 264 Poncams. (Lag can be fun tho...right?)

What standalone are you using?
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Jan 29 2015 07:52pm
Quote (SlyGoSu @ Jan 29 2015 05:26pm)
If I recall correctly, these were done on an SF600 fixture with a 4.25" bore fixture. Both heads with their respective intake manifolds, open exhaust ports.
I'm pretty sure these were SAE corrected as well, not entire sure. I saved the numbers when someone on the forums posted them but not the set up.



Thanks. Flow numbers are rather useless without the bore size and test pipe/no test pipe along with pressure which you provided. These 4v/cyl heads flow pretty damn well but the bore is quite a bit bigger than what I'm used to dealing with too. A good aftermarket LS head for a street car flows around 340-350CFM @ .600" lift on a 4.00 bore @28". Race heads are 380-400+@4.125. I think stock LS6 heads are 270ish@.600". Of course that is *8.
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Jan 29 2015 10:47pm
Quote (Touhou @ Jan 29 2015 07:41pm)
A lot of great solid info, helps a lot thanks.

I was actually leaning to a bit milder on the Tomei 264 Poncams. (Lag can be fun tho...right?)

What standalone are you using?


The dyno sheets for the Tomei kits were run with a 256/256 cam set up. So the 264s will move the power slightly to the right of the sheet and raise it a bit higher.
That being said, their ARMS setup hits like a truck at 3500 rpm and carries it pretty much the whole way through. 264 sound like a perfect step up from the 256 that ran their tests with but not going too overboard with the 270.

Also I forgot to mention that while it's nice that my brake booster is away from the turbo manifold, my intake manifold did have clearance issues with the OEM hardlines coming from the master.
It was an easy fix though via stainless steel brake lines, banjo fitting adapters.

As for standalone stuff, mostly leaning toward a Haltech PS2000.. Ready to buy it and there's money set aside specifically for it, but for now I'm focused on putting the whole thing together first.

Quote (FMX_89 @ Jan 29 2015 08:52pm)
Thanks. Flow numbers are rather useless without the bore size and test pipe/no test pipe along with pressure which you provided. These 4v/cyl heads flow pretty damn well but the bore is quite a bit bigger than what I'm used to dealing with too. A good aftermarket LS head for a street car flows around 340-350CFM @ .600" lift on a 4.00 bore @28". Race heads are 380-400+@4.125. I think stock LS6 heads are 270ish@.600". Of course that is *8.


Yeah pretty useless information without knowing all the variables, lol.

Purpose of the numbers was to compare the two heads on the exact same test so I left the gritty stuff out.
Then you start comparing findings vs a head that was done on a different flow bench and the numbers all of a sudden don't mean anything. lol
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Jan 29 2015 11:23pm
Quote (SlyGoSu @ Jan 29 2015 11:47pm)
The dyno sheets for the Tomei kits were run with a 256/256 cam set up. So the 264s will move the power slightly to the right of the sheet and raise it a bit higher.
That being said, their ARMS setup hits like a truck at 3500 rpm and carries it pretty much the whole way through. 264 sound like a perfect step up from the 256 that ran their tests with but not going too overboard with the 270.

Also I forgot to mention that while it's nice that my brake booster is away from the turbo manifold, my intake manifold did have clearance issues with the OEM hardlines coming from the master.
It was an easy fix though via stainless steel brake lines, banjo fitting adapters.

As for standalone stuff, mostly leaning toward a Haltech PS2000.. Ready to buy it and there's money set aside specifically for it, but for now I'm focused on putting the whole thing together first.



Yeah pretty useless information without knowing all the variables, lol.

Purpose of the numbers was to compare the two heads on the exact same test so I left the gritty stuff out.
Then you start comparing findings vs a head that was done on a different flow bench and the numbers all of a sudden don't mean anything. lol


Yeah it's crazy how it changes from bench to bench. It's no different than a dyno.
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Jan 30 2015 02:32am
How much did that IM cost you anyways? Can't seem to find a decent one besides the GReddy. (Can't trust ISIS that much)
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Jan 30 2015 03:55pm
Quote (Touhou @ Jan 30 2015 03:32am)
How much did that IM cost you anyways? Can't seem to find a decent one besides the GReddy. (Can't trust ISIS that much)


They sell it on their site for ~$1000 but I got mine for a little bit less, landed.

Unless you're shooting for more than 300 to the wheels, I'd keep the stock manifold. Had no issues with it from my old SR setup.

The ISIS knockoffs are actually not that bad, I know some local people running them without issues. Apparently they're an exact casting of the Greddy manifold.
I mean if I were spending on a budget and didn't mind knock off parts, the difference between the two would probably be negligible so I'd go with the ISIS.

...but I'm not that guy so...
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Jan 30 2015 04:54pm
Quote (SlyGoSu @ Jan 30 2015 02:55pm)
They sell it on their site for ~$1000 but I got mine for a little bit less, landed.

Unless you're shooting for more than 300 to the wheels, I'd keep the stock manifold. Had no issues with it from my old SR setup.

The ISIS knockoffs are actually not that bad, I know some local people running them without issues. Apparently they're an exact casting of the Greddy manifold.
I mean if I were spending on a budget and didn't mind knock off parts, the difference between the two would probably be negligible so I'd go with the ISIS.

...but I'm not that guy so...


Don't really see the point of mixing a build that'll mainly be Tomei parts. Unless I'm lazy and decide to go the disco potato route.
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Mar 2 2015 10:27pm
Quote (Touhou @ Jan 30 2015 05:54pm)
Don't really see the point of mixing a build that'll mainly be Tomei parts. Unless I'm lazy and decide to go the disco potato route.


I guess yeah, but like I said before, if it's a street car and you're staying under 300whp, stick with the stock manifold.
The greddy manifolds are really nice though.

Just bumping this thread so I don't have to make a new one again later.
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Mar 4 2015 11:13pm
Waiting on my Vipec so... other minor tuning happened.

AKA converted my digital climate control lighting to LED :)



The picture doesn't do it justice at all because god damn does it look good in person.
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Mar 5 2015 10:26am
Oh and we finished this up the other night.



The runner for cylinder 1 looks a bit wonky but it's not leaking. Might go back and fix it if it poses to be a problem.
Made the manifold to have no clearance issues and the runner ended up having to be configured that way. We'll see what happens.
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