Pics or it didn't happen.

Why would I have pictures??? I almost died.

Should have imo

i totally understand where u are coming from, but once again thats the tracks responsibility to ensure everyone know the rules and procedures for racing on their track. u can just simply say that they are ricers or mustang fans so they are ignorant, yea they may not all be the brightest but im sure GM guys do stupid things too. starting to sound a little biased to me their budski.


kinda like an air liner, it is pretty common knowledge that u have to buckle your belt on take off and all the other procedures they go through before u take off. for most ppl this is common knowledge just like say your GM buds at the strip knowing the rules and procedures, but not everyone knows these things and thats why they repeat it every flight and beat it into your head, cuz like motorsports it can be a life or death situation.


once again imo it is 100% the tracks responsibility to ensure everyone that races understands the rules and procedures for the track. if they make this 100% clear every track day and ppl still do stupid things they should be banned flat out.

very well put

sup ethan smalt. still on the audi forums?

Look, when you run a FWD car on street tires through the water box it is going to drag a shit load of water out of the box. There is no way around it. There is only 1 solution to that problem. Don't let FWD cars run. Well that wouldn't sit to well with the FWD guys would it? The track wants their money as bad as they want mine. They are struggling to stay open.


Yes there are GM guys that waste time. I never said there weren't. I already explained how the FWD guys cause problems. You would have to come to my track to understand the mustang thing. 3 out of 5 cars are either a fox body mustang or a capri. They use them because they are the CHEAPEST viable RWD race car. They throw a SBF and a C4 trans in there and go racing. On a typical thursday night there are 2 or 3 complete lane oil downs by a Fox body. There are plenty of nice fox's and it seems like there is no middle ground. They are either nice and well put together bracket/grudge cars or they are a stock 5.0 with bolt ons and a 200 shot on a stock trans. Time bombs basically. The track is in Jackson, SC and everyone refers to a primer fox body on nitrous as a "Jackson Special."


Don't call me biased when you have never been to the track that I go to. You haven't been there so how would you know what's true and what's not? What I've told you isn't coming just from me or just from my "GM buddies." The guys I go to the track with drive F-bodies, Corvettes, Mustangs, Cobras, Vipers, Lambos, RX-7s, STI's, EVOs, all manner of bikes, and even an SRT-4. We all see it the same way because it is what's actually happening. The next time I go to the track I will take some video for you.

iv have only been to the local drag strip a few times and there werent any FWD cars. i really am trying hard to see the diff between FWD and RWD rolling thru the water pit but i cant. they both have 4 wheels they both roll though the water and spin either the front or rear wheels. either way water will get on the underbody and in the fenders and drip off. im not sayiing u are wrong by any means i just cant see where the prob is there.

well stupid ppl are stupid ppl, and imo the track shuld not let ppl run that have $500 cars that blow up every other week, thats just stupid. i fully understand your gripes but i still believe it is largely the tracks responsibility.

i wasnt calling u biased, i said u are sounding a bit biased and i never said anything about what u said was not true. the statement u made was clearly biased sounding weather thats what u meant or not. i dont think i need a vid but if u want to take one to show me the prob with FWD car and the water pit, id like to see what the deal is.

edit: make the vid short plz im on dial up.

This post was edited by Four20 on Jan 17 2010 05:18pm

When a RWD car does a burnout and releases the brake and rolls up the hill while the tires are still smoking whatever water that was tracked up by the front tires evaporates. The burnout follows the wet front tires. In a FWD car the back tires just track water straight up to the line. There is nothing behind them to get rid of the water.

Also, most the FWD cars only spin 1 front tire. The other one just acts as a third rear wheel.

1 tire fire baby