thats one sexy Genesis

Lol proof? really? haha

I dont even see shit you drive at all just a pic you googled and made a sig out of. Lol we can talk about people we know all day...only difference is the people I know with cars/ trucks like that I built the motors for. My buddy has an 89 rx-7 with an lq-4 in it and his buddy has a hatch with an ls1. the ls1 is runnin 13.3:1 with a .634/ .634 roller cam and he couldn't touch me if his life depended on it. You can clearly see that smallblock in my truck in my profile and you can talk all the shit you want about flow rates and all that garbage. I put 10 hours in a set of 305 heads and they flow better than your ls bullshit. on that smallblock in my truck it also has a bored ported and polished big block throttle body (bored to 56mm) with 90lb injectors. Not only do my heads flow better how much cfm do you pull with an ls1? maybe 750 if you are lucky which when it comes to top end won't give you shit. Even when I see an ls1 pullin 850 bored, ported and all and they can't do shit. Especially in a heavy ass firebird. So Dark keep huggin the idiots nuts I laugh at both of you.You morons sit here and talk shit and dont do a thing and act like you do. Kepp dreamin

LoL, waiting for you to stop responding so I can put this in my signature, because this is just about amazing.

e: This reminds me of that episode of Family guy where the females tits start sprouting, and all the guys start grunting "UHH HUUUU ALPHA MALE".

This post was edited by ozzyarmy3 on Feb 26 2012 09:19am

Lol'd

You don't even know the fucking brands of the shit on your motor.

Stay small kid

I don't even know where to start with this. The fact that you are quoting cam lift as an indicator of it's size shows you are ignorant. That cam could be 220/220 .634/.634 on a 116 LSA or it could be 242/248 .634/.634 on a 112 LSA. Lift is the same but there would be a 50-60whp difference. High compression doesn't make that much more power on LS1's. After 12:1 you've seen most of the gain and the returns start to diminish. What heads are on it?


I'm lol'ing at you right now saying LS1's don't have any top end... If you get rid of the shitty stock intake they make crazy power up top.


Since you have a flow bench how about posting some flow numbers? You have 10 hours in your shitty iron heads, Tony Mamo himself has 16 hours in my AFR 225's. I'd be willing to bet my AFR's have you by at least 60 CFM everywhere and they aren't even max effort. You post some flow numbers and I'll post mine. It's that simple. No guessing or betting.


You have a bored and ported big block throttle body? What the fuck, who cares. It's now 56mm? Cool. The STOCK throttle body on an LS1 is a 78mm monoblade. Everyone runs 90mm or 102mm aftermarket monoblade's on aftermarket intakes.


90lb injectors? 56mm throttle body? Is this truck still TBI? LMAO. Go away kid. 2 90lb/hr injectors are only good for ~425bhp with 58psi of fuel pressure at 100% duty cycle. Sounds about right for some crap heads with a crap induction system.



Lastly my Firebird weighs a portly 3400lbs. All of the exterior panels save the rear quarter panels are injection molded Urethane polymer. I have non-power cloth seats, a Burkhart chassis front bumper support, AIR and EGR delete including AIR pump, and A/C delete. It's a good 80lbs lighter than the factory 3400lbs. In no way is that heavy haha. It's no foxbody mustang, but it's not heavy.










TL;DR this kid drives a TBI 90's chevy pickup and sweeps the floor at a machine shop. He thinks he is hot shit. No proof given, no proof needed.

This post was edited by FMX_89 on Feb 26 2012 11:15am

my sign = my car (not same color lolll )


chevrolet chevelle 1974

This post was edited by mtemplar on Feb 26 2012 11:35am

keep readin google. Your patriot heads are shit btw. The only good patriot heads are blanks. your lame machinist could have 50 hours in the heads and it wont do shit for you. Lol and cams lift means nothing? lets see you build a motor then with a small cam and actually do shit with it. oh wait you cant build engines you paid someone for your piece of shit that you think is gold. Lol

Please point out what part of my post required any Googling? I responded to everything you said with my own answers. Now to the fun stuff...




Herp a derp. How are you an engine builder that runs a machine shop and you don't know who Tony Mamo is? He is one of the lead designers at AFR. He is the guy that designed the ports for most of their LS stuff. That's like not knowing who Bill Jenkins is and building big blocks.


Secondly, My patriot heads are LS6 head castings that have been CNC machined by Patriot. Completely assembled with their good dual springs and stainless valves with titanium retainers they are $1300. They flow 300 cfm @.600 right out of the box. The spring kit is right at $300 retail. A set of GMPP ported LS6 heads are the same price with single beehive springs and they flow less. I know what power the car made then and for $1300 it was money well spent. It doesn't matter anymore as those heads are sold and my AFR 225's are on the new short block.


Cam lift doesn't mean nothing. It is important. Duration is a much better indicator of the size of the cam. Most of the time guys that just quote lift numbers have no fucking clue how to spec a cam or how the damn thing works. I gave an example of what I was saying. It is not hard to understand. The first theoretical cam I talked about would be a barely noticeable daily driver cam in a stock cube motor whereas the second cam would sound like a race car and be near the max size you could fit without PTV issues under stock heads. 2 completely different cams for completely different uses but the lift is the same.


What's the name of your machine shop? I'll call Fraser Semple at Automotive Engine Specialties and ask him if he has ever heard of you. AES built my 390. Tony Mamo from AFR ported the heads. Ed Curtis from Flowtech Induction specced the cam. I assembled it. Since you haven't given any information on anything you own, not even a brand name, I'll give you mine while we are here.

GM cast the block

Callies forged the crank

Callies forged the rods

CP-Carillo forged and CNC'd the pistons

Wiseco cast and cut the rings

Clevite machined the bearings

Calico coated everything

AFR cast and CNC'd the heads, Tony Mamo hand ported them

GM built the rockers

Morel made the lifters

Manton made the pushrods

PAC built the springs


So again, please show me why I should pull this engine out in favor of a jank ass 355 like yours? If you give me a good reason I might call your shop and put one on the debit card.

Bueller? Bueller?


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oh lawd, so much slam in one post