yea my spelling could use a little one-two, but i dont really care.

this is why I use firefox and not internet exploder

some ppl just prefer one thing to another. honda does have technologically advanced engines not just for DDing. i believe they still hold the record for the highest specific displacement 4 banger with the S2000 engine. not to mention all of their type R variant engines achieve greater than 100hp per liter N/A. there are not to many companies that put engines in that high of tune in production cars.

even the B18 u have or had almost hits 100hp per liter stock and its not even a high performance engine more in the mid range of the honda engine line. yes alot of the technology honda has developed and uses for high performance engines can be adapted to gain more fuel mileage in more DD like engines.

just think if american companies made V8's with 100 hp per liter, the new ZO6 would have 700+ hp, no need for a supercharger. but obviously that will cut reliability down substantially if u would take a traditional american V8 or even an LSX engine and tune it in the same manor. honda manages to make engines like the type R models in this same state of tune and still maintain good reliability and drivability..

american cars are also generally heavier than say his civic, weight plays a huge role in handling on a race track.

This post was edited by Four20 on Dec 23 2009 06:10pm

getting 100 hp per liter out of an i4 =/= getting 100 hp per liter out of a v8 its not really a good comparison

why not, other companies get 100 hp per liter N/A from V8's. not saying they are reliable or anything, any engine of that size and power and state of tune will require quit a bit more regular maintenance. ferrari engines for example.

the high performance honda engines on the other hand dont have alot of power because they are smaller but still in the same state of tune as a ferrari engine. the honda engine is much more reliable tho because it is less powerful and creates less heat and so on.

edit: just saying i would like to see GM in paticulare take a high displacment N/A V8 like the Z06 engine and really tune it up. the C6R race engine gets close the the 100 hp per liter mark its like a 620 hp N/A variant of the ZO6 engine. thats the kinda engines i like and would love to see an engine like this in some special model vette for all us N/A fans.

This post was edited by Four20 on Dec 23 2009 06:22pm

because v8s are about torque and not hp

horsepower is a made up number derived from a formula where torque is real force

saying you are squeezing 100hp per liter of of an engine at a certain application isn't really saying much at all its just something to put on a brochure cuz people think its special

i4 engines are all about having a really steep power band and hitting hard at a certain application IE: at a certain rpm

v8 engines have very similar torque all the way through the rpm range instead of being gutless at the top and at the bottom

To compete with what may I ask?? The z06 already owns just about everything in its price range & way higher

Just out curiousity how many people here drive 2009 models of their car?




See now this is funny because I actually looked something up yesterday:

8:47 Honda Civic Type-R
9:02 Chevrolet Cobalt SS Turbo

Source: Wikipedia

Those are official nurburgring lap record times....

I wonder how dumb you feel now.



For exactly that reason, moster is bashing me! I think its funny.

This post was edited by wKa_MatT on Dec 23 2009 06:30pm

the only thing I can think that beats it for around the same price is the GT-R

double posts are fun

This post was edited by Monster666 on Dec 23 2009 06:31pm