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Oct 19 2015 10:52am
Quote (said_aouita @ Oct 18 2015 08:25pm)
Do you believe a General Motors truck really is the best valued pick up on the market?


When I bought my sierra it comes with 5year/160,000km powertrain warranty. That seems like a pretty good deal to me.

Why do you think dodge/ford or Toyota is the better truck?
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Oct 19 2015 11:52am
2/350 square bodies with the 7.3

Anything with 4bt or 5.9 cummins

first gen tacomas

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Oct 19 2015 12:37pm
My personnal opinion:

Toyota and nissan #1 but more $$$$$

Ford #2 and cheap $$$$ but mechanic is a pain if you do it yourself

Dodge #3 (Ford and dodge kinda the same)

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Oct 19 2015 12:57pm
Quote (IHateDuriel @ Oct 19 2015 06:37pm)
My personnal opinion:

Toyota and nissan #1 but more $$$$$

Ford #2 and cheap $$$$ but mechanic is a pain if you do it yourself

Dodge #3 (Ford and dodge kinda the same)

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What justification? The tundra sucks dick.. it drives like a 3/4 ton truck with 1/2 ton parts and power, and the Titan was rated the worst value.

I'd say Ford is the safest bet right now, but I'm still partial to chevy.
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Oct 19 2015 02:44pm
Quote (QtPi @ Oct 19 2015 11:52am)
When I bought my sierra it comes with 5year/160,000km powertrain warranty. That seems like a pretty good deal to me.

Why do you think dodge/ford or Toyota is the better truck?


Maybe I missed it - Anywhere in this thread did OP say brand new trucks only? True- A brand new GM truck does feel nice. Just imo, what I've personally seen over 25+ years driving American made cars, the quality of parts are lowest on General Motors. They are cheap disposable vehicles. Brand new they feel OK, get anywhere close to 100k miles = get ready for everything to break.
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Oct 19 2015 02:48pm
*About the time Chevy dropped the Vortec 4.3L and introduced the Colorado pick up with a 5 cylinder engine you knew things had turned to shit.

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Quote (said_aouita @ Oct 19 2015 03:44pm)
Maybe I missed it - Anywhere in this thread did OP say brand new trucks only? True- A brand new GM truck does feel nice. Just imo, what I've personally seen over 25+ years driving American made cars, the quality of parts are lowest on General Motors. They are cheap disposable vehicles. Brand new they feel OK, get anywhere close to 100k miles = get ready for everything to break.


What about the mass amount of 90-2007 Silverado and Sierras still running strong with over 300k miles and original parts?
Go on silveradosierra.Com and look around, they are super reliable trucks, but like anything have downfalls.
Anytime I've been on a dodge or ford forum the people themselves there don't expect much after 150k it seems like.
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Oct 19 2015 04:11pm
yeah im really not sure what he is talking about

the only ones i really see an issue with are the dodges, and thats just because they put a junk tranny for their automatics (altho the e4od wasnt great in the Ford trucks/bronco)

the fit and finish has always been subject in the dodges, and shit just flat out falls apart, buttons quit working, motors die ect.
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Oct 28 2015 06:29am
So pretty much dodge ram is garbage
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Quote (KoJ @ Oct 19 2015 05:11pm)
yeah im really not sure what he is talking about

the only ones i really see an issue with are the dodges, and thats just because they put a junk tranny for their automatics (altho the e4od wasnt great in the Ford trucks/bronco)

the fit and finish has always been subject in the dodges, and shit just flat out falls apart, buttons quit working, motors die ect.


^^^yep


I've owned and worked on all 3 US truck brands. Here is my take:

Dodge's QC is shit and engineering is sub par. Their current stuff is getting better. They sell on volume and low pricing. Electrical, air conditioning systems, and transmissions are suspect.

Ford pushes the evolution of new technology. They are always adopting things first. They rarely seem to master something and would rather move on to the next big thing. Their engineering is great and QC is good. Most problems from a ford will come from some new system they have only been using for a year or two and made an educated guess on it's lifespan or long term function. They are inherently more complex vehicles to work on. Parts can be expensive and similar jobs take more time (labor cost) than a GM truck.

GM is neck and neck with Ford from an engineering and QC standpoint. Where they differ is how they apply their skills. When they adopt a system they run with it for a long time and slowly perfect it. The GEN V small block is a great example. It is a new design and only shares 2 small parts with the outgoing GEN IV engine but the concept of the moving parts is still the same. It is now a variable valve timing displacement on demand direct injection V8. It represents the pinnacle of evolution for the small block V8. You can still work on it with the same tools and changing the timing chain still takes the same amount of time as before. It makes as much power as the complex Ford Ecoboost and gets the same or better fuel economy while being simpler, costing less to produce, and repair.


Tl;dr

Ford/GM tie and it's personal preference from there. Don't buy a dodge.

This post was edited by FMX_89 on Oct 28 2015 07:27am
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