d2jsp
Log InRegister
d2jsp Forums > Off-Topic > Sports Coliseum > Motor Sports & Cars >
Poll > Luxury Sedan
Prev1234510Next
Add Reply New Topic New Poll
  Guests cannot view or vote in polls. Please register or login.
Member
Posts: 10,044
Joined: Mar 8 2008
Gold: 815.00
Dec 11 2014 10:07pm
Quote (Azn Masta @ Dec 10 2014 12:25pm)
Young and Sporty = IS
Love Driving and Performance (Driver's car) = 3 series
Want that "class" or "prestige" and a comfy ride = c class

Is this an every day car? Do you want to show off to friends? Do you have family/kids?

I can't speak for the other brands, but I am a huge fan of Benz. The MSRP of C300 Luxury/Sports Package is around 42k base while (48k with lighting package), the C400 is 49.5k base. For that price, I'd rather get the CLA45 AMG (49-55k Range if you get the "necessary" packages). AMG's are a whole new "monster" compared to the "standard line" of Mercedes and worth every penny. I love the aggressive look; see pic below for #ReindeerCar

I wouldn't touch an Audi unless its an S3 or S4 at minimum. I don't like the exterior design for them.
Infinity is crap compared to the other big dogs

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b142/AznMastaBui/CLA%20250/CLA45%20AMG/AaronCLA45AMGReindeer_zps728fa0f3.jpg


you need a red nose at the logo
Member
Posts: 5,826
Joined: May 12 2013
Gold: 900.00
Dec 12 2014 03:43pm
Quote (pyropunk @ Dec 11 2014 01:05pm)
I drive a lexus is300
BEST CARS EVER
2jz all fucking day!
http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r173/xPyRoPuNk93x/00z0z_aJfDzfigj2Y_600x450_zpse410ca5f.jpg


Too bad it's a shitty 2jz with a shitty tranny
Member
Posts: 3,005
Joined: May 31 2013
Gold: 151.89
Dec 13 2014 07:13pm
Benz
Member
Posts: 2,156
Joined: Oct 18 2009
Gold: 1,000.00
Dec 14 2014 03:12am
Quote (Caedus @ Dec 11 2014 06:19am)
The surveys aren't good either because they're spurious. It's not poor reliability of the cars that's causing scores like this, it's the phenomenon of car owners not taking care of their vehicles and some brands (tend be the ones with the cheapest parts...) have a better reputation. If you take care of your car, no reason it shouldn't run great.

And Audi was 5th on that list. Would suggest (if you believe the surveys), they're pretty reliable huh?


back to what i said... most people who own these cars do not maitain them a they should. these are done on brand new cars.. and yes for a brand new car they did well. however their older ones are shit.z
Member
Posts: 48,261
Joined: Aug 1 2008
Gold: 1,819.09
Dec 14 2014 08:58am
Quote (TG3 @ Dec 14 2014 04:12am)
back to what i said... most people who own these cars do not maitain them a they should. these are done on brand new cars.. and yes for a brand new car they did well. however their older ones are shit.z


It's not for brand new cars. It's taken from survey data where people report complaints. Which is why they're not reliable.

That's still not the manufacturers fault.
Member
Posts: 5,826
Joined: May 12 2013
Gold: 900.00
Dec 14 2014 10:06am
Quote (Caedus @ Dec 14 2014 10:58am)
It's not for brand new cars. It's taken from survey data where people report complaints. Which is why they're not reliable.

That's still not the manufacturers fault.


Audi's and VW's are known to be problematic. I can talk from "experience" since you dont care about facts.
Member
Posts: 48,261
Joined: Aug 1 2008
Gold: 1,819.09
Dec 14 2014 11:53am
Quote (CarsAndKush @ Dec 14 2014 11:06am)
Audi's and VW's are known to be problematic. I can talk from "experience" since you dont care about facts.


Known to be by whom? Personal experience is irrelevant, it's not generizable and it's a logical fallacy. Audi's are purported to be reliable by reliability survey's, which are usually the response people will give you if you say personal experience isn't an argument.

Every car is reliable if you take care of it. That's fact. Take care of your car and most people should have relatively few problems with their car. More expensive cars to fix have a worse reputation for reliability. Why? Because they tend to be cars with better performance, which means people tend to drive them too hard, and people are more likely to complain about a fix for a car if they have to pay more for it. The luxury car brands with reputations for reliability are Acura and Lexus, not surprising considering they're the luxury cars which are less likely to be owned by those seeking 'performance', and the cost to fix them is very similar to their "mother" brands in Honda and Toyota.

No car is objectively unreliable. That's fact. It's all subjective.
Member
Posts: 2,156
Joined: Oct 18 2009
Gold: 1,000.00
Dec 14 2014 03:57pm
Quote (Caedus @ Dec 14 2014 10:53am)
Known to be by whom? Personal experience is irrelevant, it's not generizable and it's a logical fallacy. Audi's are purported to be reliable by reliability survey's, which are usually the response people will give you if you say personal experience isn't an argument.

Every car is reliable if you take care of it. That's fact. Take care of your car and most people should have relatively few problems with their car. More expensive cars to fix have a worse reputation for reliability. Why? Because they tend to be cars with better performance, which means people tend to drive them too hard, and people are more likely to complain about a fix for a car if they have to pay more for it. The luxury car brands with reputations for reliability are Acura and Lexus, not surprising considering they're the luxury cars which are less likely to be owned by those seeking 'performance', and the cost to fix them is very similar to their "mother" brands in Honda and Toyota.

No car is objectively unreliable. That's fact. It's all subjective.


The fact that you called acura luxury now proves to me i was arguing with someone who has no experience with luxury cars. Anyway your wrong. suck it up.
Member
Posts: 48,261
Joined: Aug 1 2008
Gold: 1,819.09
Dec 14 2014 04:29pm
Quote (TG3 @ Dec 14 2014 04:57pm)
The fact that you called acura luxury now proves to me i was arguing with someone who has no experience with luxury cars. Anyway your wrong. suck it up.


Acura is a luxury brand. So is Bentley. Luxury doesn't imply that all luxury brands are the same. Acura is luxury like Buick, Lincoln and Lexus are luxury. They're marketed to different people then Audi, BMW, Jaguar and Mercedes but they're still in the luxury segment. Luxury means upmarket. Rolex and Michael Kors are both watchmakers in the luxury jewelry market. Doesn't mean they're competing companies. Acura is trying to move up like Cadillac has been, hence why they're bringing back the NSX as a R8 esque flagship car.

Arguing semantics doesn't help you at all dumbass. Thinking Acura isn't branded as a luxury make proves to me you have no experience with luxury cars.

And I really love that this forum is full of people who can't make an argument, get flustered then tell the other person they're wrong :lol:

This post was edited by Caedus on Dec 14 2014 04:30pm
Member
Posts: 8,671
Joined: Jul 9 2007
Gold: 11,961.01
Dec 14 2014 04:30pm
no one cares
Go Back To Motor Sports & Cars Topic List
Prev1234510Next
Add Reply New Topic New Poll