vouch

no chevy


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k62gW3Se5e0



also doesnt the trd tundra msrp at like 46?


This post was edited by slacker057 on Jul 12 2014 10:13am

Ridgelinelol

Turd Taco for sure.

nissan sentra extended cab

Now that I'm on a desktop I can elaborate a bit. From what you said you want the truck to do it sounds like a base V8 half ton is perfect for you. I will never own another 1/4 ton pickup myself. The fuel mileage improvement is marginal and you give up a lot of capability and cab space.

Now lets break down the 4 big competitors.


Lets start with the Silverado since I have the most experience with it and I think it's the best choice overall for you unless your budget won't allow for it.

2014 is the first year of the new generation so it will continue to look fresh for at least 5 years most likely 7 before they redesign it. It offer the best fuel economy of any of the trucks excluding the V6 silverado and the V6 Ram. 16/23/18 in 4WD with a 5.3. The Gen 5 5.3 ecotech has quite a bit more punch than the old one. They are up to 355hp/383lb ft compared to the Gen IV at 315/338. They have almost the same power and torque as the old 6.0. While it is a clean sheet redesign of the engine the design is still about as basic as they can make it. This is going to be a simple and reliable system for years to come. That doesn't mean it is low tech though. As you are about to find out it gets better mileage than the high tech ecoboost and blows away the other V8's. This is the engine that is going to be found in probably 85% of all GM trucks. Not many people are going to pop for the 420hp/460tq 6.2L even though it still manages 20mpg highway. The rest of the truck is a big upgrade in quality, features, and comfort over the last generation that everyone seemed to love. I did a 24hr test drive in one and the refinement over the 2008 I had was astounding. The interior is really nice, and the ride comfort is great. They really have the independent front suspension tuned well and the suspension mounted cab is nice.


Ford gives you more engine options than anyone. They have the 3.5L Ecofail, the 3.7L N/A, the 5.0, and the 6.2L SOHC.

The Ecoboost is 15/21/17 (365hp/420tq)
The 3.7 V6 is 16/21/18 (302/278)
The 5.0 is 14/19/16 (360/380)
The 6.2 is atrocious at 12/16/13 (411/434)

So the 6.2L Silverado has more HP and TQ than the 6.2L Ford while getting 3mpg better combined mileage. The 5.0 and 5.3L are very comparable power wise but the silverado is ahead by 4mpg on the highway. That's 20%. The biggest difference is the maintenance cost. The 5.3 is nice and simple with a cam in block pushrod setup and the 5.0 is DOHC. In the event that they both need internal engine work it doesn't take a rocket surgeon to figure out which one will bill out more labor time. Quality wise Ford and GM are in a dead heat right now and it really comes down to the differences I pointed out and personal preference on styling and features. Either one is a great choice.


The Dodge is the cheapest V8 half ton to get into. In some cases they are significantly cheaper. It won truck of the year 2 years in a row before the new silverado came out. In my opinion as a Dodge truck owner they still have some convincing to do. They have to convince those of us that have put up with their shitty quality in the last 20 years that they really are on Ford and GM's level. Their trucks are getting nicer and nicer and the gap is closing quickly but I still don't feel like they can offer the same quality product at thousands less than the other two. The good thing about Dodge is they get desperate very quickly. They will often run really really big incentives that cut their own throats when new model year trucks come out if sales have been poor. That opportunity rarely exists with GM and Ford. This also effects resale value. Dodge has the worst depreciation of any truck manufacturer besides Nissan.

The 3.6 get 16/23/19 (305hp/269tq)
The 5.7 gets 15/21/17 with the optional 8 speed auto BUT it requires mid grade gas (395hp/410tq)
The 3.0 Diesel gets 19/27/22 (240hp/420tq)


To me the Tundra is a franken child of a company that didn't know how to build a full size truck. They market it as a half ton, but a beefed up half ton. It blurs the line between a half ton and three quarter ton. It has big brakes, and a beefed up transmission/transfer case. It has a big engine for a Toyota. It is physically a bit bigger than the other half tons. It's kind of like a 1/4 ton truck in reverse. It can do a bit more than a half ton but you sacrifice a lot of fuel economy to get there. It's 5.7L puts out 381hp but only manages 13/17/15. That is a big hit in economy for a truck that offers about the same capability as a 5.3L Silverado especially on the highway. The tundra is rather unimpressive to me. Most reviewers have felt the same way. It has very rarely finished first in any truck comparisons or shootouts by the magazines and online publications. It usually places 2nd or 3rd. This truck is also quite expensive to get into but they do hold their value as well as GM and Ford.


All fuel mileage figures are with 4WD.

TL;DR for everyone else... Go test drive at 5.3L Silverado and a 5.0L F-150.

This post was edited by FMX_89 on Jul 12 2014 08:24pm

Thank you man for that response, I actually test drove a new silverado today and thoroughly enjoyed it, I will need to look a little bit more into the other options just so I can be sure I am making the right decision

awd isnt 4wd, so which is it that you need

Silverado

We have been over this turbo_turd.. there is literally less then a handful of trucks that come with real 4wd from the factory and none of them would be on this list.