your girlfriend


or, "im not sure I was out of the house and had left the car and keys at home, any one who has access to my house could have been driving"

You are 85$ poorer sorry

My guess is that it was just a traffic control camera, and they added the red light flag on it. They rely on people like you to roll over and pay, but anyone who knows a thing would never pay a ticket from that camera.
Most red light cameras that give out tickets are on the light/harness and facing the driver (on the light they are running) , and there is a reason they are placed as such.

cant fight those here in ny

Seriously? As the owner of a vehicle, it gets a parking violation for parking in front of a fire hydrant for example. You think you can go into court and say I didn't park there, someone else must have did it, and they are going to let you off? LMAO What world do you live in?

Are you stupid?
You can't see the difference in those 2 scenarios?
If you're getting a parking ticket, there is a cop there to give you a ticket, because he's there to see the violation. He can show up to court and say "yes your honor, i witnessed this violation of the law, i was there, and i wrote that ticket"
But to find you guilty of crime, a moving violation in this case, with no witness and a camera that only saw it was your car... that's not hard to defend in court.

also, parking in front of a hydrant isn't a misdemeanor... it's a fine... that you can't contest.


edit; and to answer your question i live in America, where you have to be found guilty, beyond a reasonable doubt, of committing a crime before you can be convicted.

This post was edited by Morphmcmanerson on Jul 29 2013 05:19pm

is there a "no turn on red" sign? if not then you cant get a ticket.


was there a physical stop sign on the corner? if no, then you are in the clear.


thats how it works here in wisc.


was their a yield sign?

Well in this scenario, he is clearly guilty of a rolling stop,that is what it is called here. By a matter of law he will be the one responsible because he allowed whoever your excuse "it wasn't me defense" driver to drive said vehicle. He's guilty and any reasonable person who watched the video will see, especially with the aid of attorneys for the prosecution and defense, that he did in fact, not stop for the red light. The fact that he may or may not have been driving said vehicle is irrelevant, due to the fact that he allowed someone else to use his vehicle. Which is why I cited the parking ticket example. If the said person who ran the red light also parked illegally and got a ticket when they were in a shop, the police would not automatically seem them park or return to the car.In my state running a red light is a civil infraction and not a misdemeanor,and you go to a magistrate and not even a judge. But the facts are the facts, hard to deny that his car, for which he is responsible, violated the law in the video. I rest my case.

This post was edited by SheriffCool on Jul 29 2013 06:19pm

You should say it was yellow as you approached and were looking for clearance when it turned red so you didn't notice and kept going.

Also I can't see your plate maybe they got the wrong person. Lol

If you let someone else drive your car, you arn't liable for the crimes they commit while they are in possesion of it... If he let me borrow his vette and i hit 5 kids in that intersection then drove his car in a ditch somewhere... he's not liable for the deaths of those 5 kids, he wasn't driving.

Did that unravel your warped views of motor vehicle laws, or help you understand that a parking ticket and a moving violation are 2 totally different things at all?

This post was edited by Morphmcmanerson on Jul 29 2013 07:33pm