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Dec 7 2012 03:51pm
Quote (MrCamel @ Dec 7 2012 12:53pm)
Do you even own the car? I highly doubt it the way you're talking about it. The Prius tires let give you enough grip for regular driving and let you have some fun if you want to kick out the back. They are not however all season tires so snow/freezing rain isn't possible...if that matters to you don't get a small rwd car though.



There's no turbo so very little blow by from the engine. If you plan to stay na the catch can will serve little purpose. I am getting one more for engine dressing than Anything else.



The way they built the motor, the manufacture funnels the excess oil back to the intake system. This gunk build up can damage valves etc.
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Dec 7 2012 03:52pm
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What I'd do in your case, make it turbo.

There is a turbocharged version of this motor:

A version with direct fuel injection and twin-scroll turbocharger was introduced in 2012 to the Japanese market for the Legacy GT DIT (direct injection turbo) sedan, and the Legacy GT DIT Touring Wagon.
Bore: 86 mm
Stroke: 86 mm
Displacement: 1,998 cc
Compression Ratio: 10.6:1
Power: 300 PS (221 kW; 296 hp) at 5,600 RPM
Torque: 40.8 kg·m (400 N·m; 295 lb·ft) at 2,000-4,800 RPM
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Dec 7 2012 03:52pm
Quote (MrCamel @ Dec 7 2012 04:19pm)
Wider and stickier would make sense if you're looking for good quarter mile times on a mustang, this is a small sports car, you've never driven it and clearly don't have any valid input. I'm not saying the tires are the greatest, cause they're not, but wide sticky tires would ruin the fun/spirit of the car.


I dont even know where to start on this....
Is friction less important when accelerating laterally instead of in a straight line? Nope.
Wider and stickier is good for everything except mpgs.

The limiting factor to how fast you can turn is friction. Wider and stickier tires increase that friction. Where is the problem coming in?
Or do you just want to "drift"
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Dec 7 2012 04:03pm
Quote (AXIS @ Dec 7 2012 04:52pm)
I dont even know where to start on this....
Is friction less important when accelerating laterally instead of in a straight line? Nope.
Wider and stickier is good for everything except mpgs.

The limiting factor to how fast you can turn is friction. Wider and stickier tires increase that friction. Where is the problem coming in?
Or do you just want to "drift"


More unsprung mass and more rotating weight are not good for something that doesn't have the power to turn them. I would personally want something 10-15mm wider at least and much stickier but I don't really like drifting.
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Dec 7 2012 04:08pm
245's on a some what stock gt86 is all you need.
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Dec 7 2012 04:18pm
the biggest, badest wing you can find

that bad boys gonna need some downforce with all the power its making!
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Dec 7 2012 04:26pm
Quote (AXIS @ Dec 7 2012 04:52pm)
I dont even know where to start on this....
Is friction less important when accelerating laterally instead of in a straight line? Nope.
Wider and stickier is good for everything except mpgs.

The limiting factor to how fast you can turn is friction. Wider and stickier tires increase that friction. Where is the problem coming in?
Or do you just want to "drift"


Harping on the tire issue is getting tiring (no pun intended). This car wasn't made for fat wide tires... I'm not saying we should be drifting around turns but it's supposed to break traction and give the car a fun feel.

This car doesn't have the power for big fat tires, it would ruin the joy of the car.

You've never driven the car, your opinion is moot anyway, you probably drive a Camaro or something and you're applying that logic here.

This post was edited by MrCamel on Dec 7 2012 04:26pm
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Dec 7 2012 04:32pm
have you ever driven the gt86? The oem tires are fucking garbage.
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Dec 7 2012 05:43pm
Quote (Krnboi12345 @ Dec 7 2012 04:32pm)
have you ever driven the gt86? The oem tires are fucking garbage.


Jeremy Clarkson seemed to love them.
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Dec 7 2012 06:00pm
Quote (FMX_89 @ Dec 7 2012 05:03pm)
More unsprung mass and more rotating weight are not good for something that doesn't have the power to turn them.  I would personally want something 10-15mm wider at least and much stickier but I don't really like drifting.


While I understand how physics works, there are lightweight setups that are lighter (or about the same) and give more grip. Some wide, forged rims on some low profile tires would be pretty nice.


Quote (MrCamel @ Dec 7 2012 05:26pm)
Harping on the tire issue is getting tiring (no pun intended). This car wasn't made for fat wide tires... I'm not saying we should be drifting around turns but it's supposed to break traction and give the car a fun feel.

This car doesn't have the power for big fat tires, it would ruin the joy of the car.

You've never driven the car, your opinion is moot anyway, you probably drive a Camaro or something and you're applying that logic here.


I drive a Mustang so I suppose thats close but we also have a Miata which is pretty much the same car just not as cool looking really. If you plan on sliding your car around than better tires are pointless, but if you want a better performing car than more traction is a good thing. Personally id rather have a car that rides like its on rail then one that breaks loose all the time.
Just because the car doesnt have hardly any power doesnt mean it doesnt need traction. We swapped the tires on our miata to some slightly wider, much stickier tires and its way more fun. You can go through turns much quicker than before without them breaking loose.
I suppose it all depends on how you define "fun".
My mustang had has plenty of power to spin the tires even with my much improved (over stock) summer tires. You can still slide with better traction, you just do it at a higher speed. More fun imo.
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