Quote (AXIS @ Oct 7 2013 11:26pm)

I havent bothered to follow the story much but werent the guys scratching and denting his car after he bumped into the biker?
If thats the case its plenty enough reason for me to want to get the hell out of there.

Quote (FMX_89 @ Oct 7 2013 11:12pm)

IE Travon






Many states have stand your ground laws.  Running over someone that hasn't personally threatened you is morally wrong to me.  Flee yes.  Stand your ground yes.  Castle law applied to vehicle yes.

It still isn't right to use the lethal force of your vehicle to run someone over that is standing there.


imagine he pulled a gun and shot the guy in the chest before driving off.  Does that sit differently with you people?  Its the same thing.  If he shot someone that was attempting to get into his vehicle that would be ok.  Same as if he ran him over.

Lets also refrain from pretending that the beating and vandalism sensationalized by the media was going to happen whether he ran that guy over or not.


It was a direct response to watching the friend get run over. It was blood rage.  Nothing else would make a guy like that drop his bike on the ground.  That I can promise.  He was ready to go to jail at that point.


By running that guy over he escalated the situation drastically.  That is what I was talking about in my last post.


And JDH, I see lots of sportbike riders acting like that.  Always remember that they are taking their own life in their hands when they do that shit, not yours.  You are safe in your 3000-80000lb vehicle.  Keep on as you normally would.  That is the best thing you can do.

Quote (AXIS @ Oct 7 2013 11:26pm)

I havent bothered to follow the story much but werent the guys scratching and denting his car after he bumped into the biker?
If thats the case its plenty enough reason for me to want to get the hell out of there.

Quote (Subwoofer @ Oct 7 2013 11:33pm)

actually i don't think new york has castle law that applies to vehicles. they have a weak(doesn't specifically say you can use lethal force i don't think) castle law for your home.

and ya its absurd how people are going "he was protecting his family" but "he was avenging a friend" is not a valid reason to explain why they assaulted the guy after he did that.



he claimed they started attacking the vehicle but the pictures i seen afterwards was all damage that happened after they stopped the vehicle at the end and got him out.

the only damage that could of possibly of been done prior to them stopping him at the end was the front tire damage and the front passenger side window was smashed but not smashed in.

he claims the tire damage was them slitting his tire...but he had no possible way of seeing them do this since it was the front passenger side tire.

he never claimed they smashed the window by his wife so i can only assume that happened when the other windows got smashed at the end.

Quote (FMX_89 @ Oct 7 2013 11:45pm)

The bikers didnt do anything right.  That is obvious.


I don't like how the media is praising the guy for attempted vehicular homicide because he was scared.  The bikers needed to escalate it before that was justifiable to me.

Quote (Subwoofer @ Oct 7 2013 11:49pm)

ya its absurd how this went from some jackass causing a wreck to some lunatic running over multiple people but all people keep saying is "look at what the bikers did" instead of "look at what the bikers did to the guy that ran over a bunch of other bikers and drove off".

i don't support the jackass brake checking the suv and i don't support them assaulting him.......but that is all trivial compared to what the suv driver did.

Quote (FMX_89 @ Oct 7 2013 11:53pm)

We are on the same page.  I find it hypocritical as fuck.  Im sure he wont be charged with anything either further influencing the masses to disrespect motorcyclists.

Quote (Subwoofer @ Oct 7 2013 11:57pm)

which is just absurd. no castle doctrine for vehicles, no proof of any sort of deadly force on part of the bikers, his story about them slashing his tire was a blatant lie.

which is more likely.

he somehow seen through the front end of his vehicle to see them slashing the front passenger side tire.

or that this is what caused the tire damage

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/10/01/article-2440049-1865A57D00000578-229_634x426.jpg

and people seriously pick the first option which is just sad.

Quote (FMX_89 @ Oct 8 2013 12:02am)

My problem with it is simpler



you slashed my tire


I'm going to run over your friend to get out of here.


ba boomp





occifer occifer they were gonna kill me!!!!!1!!1!


Maybe it's because I live in the south and anytime a black person js injured it is a HUGE deal... I dunno.

Quote (FMX_89 @ Oct 8 2013 12:29am)

Again, imagine the exact same scenario but the guy opened fire with no warning then sped off.  Do you think they had threatened him enough to justify that?

He needed to get out of there.  Without running someone over if at all possible...

Quote (AXIS @ Oct 8 2013 12:45am)

*IF* they were surrounding his car and using violence as originally claimed than yes.

I dont no what happened and i dont care to use an 8-bit looking video to argue one way or another.
No different than all of the people who condemned zimmerman with no eidence