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Dec 27 2012 09:49am
Quote (Epicexecution @ Dec 26 2012 10:57pm)
uhhh no I didn't. but thanks for your useless input


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Dec 27 2012 11:14am
Quote (FMX_89 @ Dec 27 2012 10:05am)
Hey bro, maybe you should get an edumacation before you start popping off at the mouth.  What do I know? I'm just a dumbass from SC.


Last time I checked, 911's are rear engine.  That's apples and oranges.  And yes,  most porsches are squirrely as fuck under braking, including their race cars.  You completely missed the point though.  The more power a car has the longer the wheelbase needs to be to keep it planted.  That's why successful road course cars aren't the size of a smart car.

If YOU had any experience with different types of sports cars, especially those with more power, you would understand the reasoning.  It was stupid for you to go off on me without knowing anything about me.


Edit: a gt3rs doesn't make much more power than a mustang.  Let me spell it out for you.  Engine over rear wheels keeps rear end planted by increasing traction.  A front engine car with the same power would need to be longer to keep it from being tail happy.


You're so bad at making arguments it hurts.
Limo's arn't successful in road courses either are they?
To say all cars are better at putting power down if their longer, is straight up false. Thanks for pointing it out yourself in the example of rear engine, or mid-rear cars.

Going off on you? i just said you arn't a a race engineer, was i wrong?
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Dec 27 2012 12:02pm
Quote (Morphmcmanerson @ Dec 27 2012 11:14am)
You're so bad at making arguments it hurts.
Limo's arn't successful in road courses either are they?
To sayallcars are better at putting power down if their longer, is straight up false. Thanks for pointing it out yourself in the example of rear engine, or mid-rear cars.

Going off on you? i just said you arn't a a race engineer, was i wrong?


apparently you are.

lets look at all of the cars that are actually good on a track:

Aventador
ZR1
Viper ACR
Mclaren mp412c
LFA
can keep going.

but what do all of these cars have in common?

decent HP and long/wide wheelbase.

even porsches 918 that actually has an amazing track time has a long wheelbase.


the 911 gt2 has a a huge power to weight ratio, but it still has a worse time than the LFA( with almost 100 less hp per ton) and barely beats the GTR and ZR1 and still has a better power to weight ratio than both of them...
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Dec 27 2012 12:17pm
Quote (Huayra @ Dec 27 2012 01:02pm)
apparently you are.

lets look at all of the cars that are actually good on a track:

Aventador
ZR1
Viper ACR
Mclaren mp412c
LFA
can keep going.

but what do all of these cars have in common?

decent HP and long/wide wheelbase.

even porsches 918 that actually has an amazing track time has a long wheelbase.


the 911 gt2 has a a huge power to weight ratio, but it still has a worse time than the LFA( with almost 100 less hp per ton) and barely beats the GTR and ZR1 and still has a better power to weight ratio than both of them...


and all these cars would be better if they were 9 inches longer?
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Dec 27 2012 12:26pm
Quote (Morphmcmanerson @ Dec 27 2012 12:17pm)
and all these cars would be better if they were 9 inches longer?


what?

you missed the whole point.

the BRZ is fine the way it is, but if it had more power, it would benefit from have a longer wheel base....
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Dec 27 2012 01:09pm
Quote (Morphmcmanerson @ Dec 27 2012 12:14pm)
You're so bad at making arguments it hurts.
Limo's arn't successful in road courses either are they?
To sayallcars are better at putting power down if their longer, is straight up false. Thanks for pointing it out yourself in the example of rear engine, or mid-rear cars.

Going off on you? i just said you arn't a a race engineer, was i wrong?


You are fucking retarded. I'll explain why when i get home tonight. Meanwhile try to figure it out yourself. Its pretty obvious.
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Dec 27 2012 01:22pm
Quote (FMX_89 @ Dec 27 2012 11:09am)
You are fucking retarded.  I'll explain why when i get home tonight.  Meanwhile try to figure it out yourself.  Its pretty obvious.


and you see why i stopped bothering to post here?


all of a sudden im going to run into people that think they have more off road knowledge or dirt oval knowledge then me, and its not worth fighting with them over when i actually know and use/do it in real life and not just talk about it on a forum
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Dec 27 2012 01:25pm
Quote (FMX_89 @ Dec 27 2012 02:09pm)
You are fucking retarded. I'll explain why when i get home tonight. Meanwhile try to figure it out yourself. Its pretty obvious.


I'm at the edge of my seat.

Quote (KoJ @ Dec 27 2012 02:22pm)
and you see why i stopped bothering to post here?


You're not missed, if it makes you feel any better
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Dec 27 2012 01:29pm
Quote (Morphmcmanerson @ Dec 27 2012 11:25am)
I'm at the edge of my seat.



You're not missed, if it makes you feel any better


thanks, your a random, enjoy your shit box
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Quote (Morphmcmanerson @ Dec 27 2012 02:25pm)
I'm at the edge of my seat.



You're not missed, if it makes you feel any better


Who the fuck are you anyway?
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