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Jan 11 2019 06:21am
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Quote (eMptyBox @ Jan 10 2019 10:34pm)
I understand why it's sucking in

But I don't understand why that design is even there / what it is (pic 2)

Why would they put a spot for a hole if im supposed to close it


Because back in the day lots of motors were required to run EGR valves and other emissions items due to certain states. Back then, when these were destined for say... Wisconsin, or other similar states that did not require smog at that time these motors were not fitted with the EGR system. If you were in say California, or other states that did have smog or emissions testing, they would ship with those parts in place.

Manufactures decided, rather than make two completely separate intake manifolds for the same motor, they would make one that could be fitted for either application. That's why you see the factory casting (lol) has an indentation and bolt holes for one, but nothing in its place.

You're simply just missing the dummy bolt they put in place so that the intake would not leak. Either order one from Chrysler or refer to my post above if you want to be cheaper about it
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Because back in the day lots of motors were required to run EGR valves and other emissions items due to certain states. Back then, when these were destined for say... Wisconsin, or other similar states that did not require smog at that time these motors were not fitted with the EGR system. If you were in say California, or other states that did have smog or emissions testing, they would ship with those parts in place.

Manufactures decided, rather than make two completely separate intake manifolds for the same motor, they would make one that could be fitted for either application. That's why you see the factory casting (lol) has an indentation and bolt holes for one, but nothing in its place.

You're simply just missing the dummy bolt they put in place so that the intake would not leak. Either order one from Chrysler or refer to my post above if you want to be cheaper about it


So now that I understand thw history you recommend getting the part that it never came with? ( The egr valve/tube)

Thanks for your help, going to try more search when I get on PC


Just want to idle better and maybe run smoother, I know I'm guzzling gas

This post was edited by eMptyBox on Jan 11 2019 06:44am
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So now that I understand thw history you recommend getting the part that it never came with? ( The egr valve/tube)

Thanks for your help, going to try more search when I get on PC


Just want to idle better and maybe run smoother, I know I'm guzzling gas


No, I wouldn't recommend putting the egr valve, crossover tube, etc on. Just the bolt that is missing from the right hand hole in your second picture
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You're simply just missing the dummy bolt they put in place so that the intake would not leak. Either order one from Chrysler or refer to my post above if you want to be cheaper about it


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No, I wouldn't recommend putting the egr valve, crossover tube, etc on. Just the bolt that is missing from the right hand hole in your second picture


When i look online everyone that looks like mine is also missing this bolt. (this is why im hesitant)

they should all plug that missing bolt??!?!??!?


thanks for answers. tbh

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When i look online everyone that looks like mine is also missing this bolt. (this is why im hesitant)

they should all plug that missing bolt??!?!??!?


thanks for answers. tbh


Not sure, Without being there looking at it I couldn't tell you. From the potato pic, it looks like there should be a bolt in there.

Either way, if it's leaking from there, it shouldn't be.
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Not sure, Without being there looking at it I couldn't tell you. From the potato pic, it looks like there should be a bolt in there.

Either way, if it's leaking from there, it shouldn't be.


alright stuffs starting to really sink in..

for fun ill go and see if i can get my own picture, those were s/s's from google (i edited ofc)


but thats 100% the culprit, all the air, and vacuum leak stops, the idle goes down smoother etc etc etc

This post was edited by eMptyBox on Jan 11 2019 07:59am
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Jan 11 2019 10:15am
plug the fuckin hole lol, how hard is it?

jb weld, tape, glue, pasta dough, what ever
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Jan 11 2019 04:51pm
i can tell you with 100% certainty that they didnt send it out of the factory with a hole sucking air. there HAS to have been something there like jimmy said. plug it with a bolt or some shit so it doesnt pull air in dont sit here and worry yourself to death about what everyone else with that car and motor are doing.
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Jan 11 2019 06:55pm
Quote (KoJ @ Jan 11 2019 11:15am)
plug the fuckin hole lol, how hard is it?

jb weld, tape, glue, pasta dough, what ever


just do what koj said.

those plastic intakes as they get older have a chance of cracking and causing issues like this.

so plug that bitch up
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Quote (night_throne @ Jan 11 2019 07:55pm)
just do what koj said.

those plastic intakes as they get older have a chance of cracking and causing issues like this.

so plug that bitch up


Yeah I think it's a crack in the case, don't think a bolt would plug the fix. Or even go inside that hole. ( No threads..?)

I got a temp plug that works great, I'm going to seal when I can though


Thanks again everyone for feedback

Both of the holes don't have a bolt btw, they appear like that so they can be flush with the egr coverplate. (What I'd guess)

Just going to plug the crack and reset the computer

This post was edited by eMptyBox on Jan 12 2019 08:20am
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