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Aug 14 2016 08:51pm
Quote (FMX_89 @ Aug 14 2016 09:46pm)
Do not use purple power on your paint. It is a caustic degreaser... danger will robinson!

Spend $10 on a bug ND tar sponge. It won't swirl or Mar your paint. Any chemicals you put on clear coat should be pH balanced.


http://www.autogeekmobile.net/pinsafscrub.html

http://www.autogeekmobile.net/tarbug.html?&pageNo=1


Purple power is only a danger to damage paint if 1) you soak something in it for long periods of time 2) use far too much of it 3) use it far too often (like every day). A few squirts (especially if you mix it with water first, which is what almost all professional detailers do) on bug stains will not damage anything lol. I know a detailer for a Porsche dealership. They'll use PP even for a 918. It's completely safe.

@OP: if you google purple power dangers or purple power damage, you'll find people who decided to soak a cylinder head in purple power and were upset PP corroded it. Good luck finding someone who had PP eat through the clear with a few spurts from a spray bottle.

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Aug 14 2016 09:45pm
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Purple power is only a danger to damage paint if 1) you soak something in it for long periods of time 2) use far too much of it 3) use it far too often (like every day). A few squirts (especially if you mix it with water first, which is what almost all professional detailers do) on bug stains will not damage anything lol. I know a detailer for a Porsche dealership. They'll use PP even for a 918. It's completely safe.

@OP: if you google purple power dangers or purple power damage, you'll find people who decided to soak a cylinder head in purple power and were upset PP corroded it. Good luck finding someone who had PP eat through the clear with a few spurts from a spray bottle.


So if a chemical will do damage over a period of time we can agree that it has a reaction yes? So a shorter interval only results in less damage. The damage is still there. Why use anything that has the potential to damage your stuff when there are plenty of completely safe products out there?

I don't care what your detailer friend uses. PP doesn't play nice with so many things it isn't worth using on a car. Anywhere. Instead of diluting it like they are to use as an APC I use an APC designed for paint... and it costs about the same as PP when bought by the gallon.


Quote (JDH @ Aug 14 2016 08:58pm)
any of the big name auto stores carry those? and thanks for the h/u about the purple power


I'm sure it varies by region but I don't recall seeing them in any of my local stores. AG usually gets stuff to you in 3 days. It ships from Palm Beach Fla.







Edit: Not to mention that shit is going to strip ALL wax and sealant from anything it touches. It says on the label it isn't for painted surfaces.





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So if a chemical will do damage over a period of time we can agree that it has a reaction yes? So a shorter interval only results in less damage. The damage is still there. Why use anything that has the potential to damage your stuff when there are plenty of completely safe products out there?

I don't care what your detailer friend uses. PP doesn't play nice with so many things it isn't worth using on a car. Anywhere. Instead of diluting it like they are to use as an APC I use an APC designed for paint... and it costs about the same as PP when bought by the gallon.

I'm sure it varies by region but I don't recall seeing them in any of my local stores. AG usually gets stuff to you in 3 days. It ships from Palm Beach Fla.


No we can't agree because I didn't say that. Pressure washing can also damage your paint, but that doesn't mean any amount will. It takes prolonged or excessive use of PP to damage clear coat. That's significant damage (which is impossible unless you encase your mirror, bumper, whatever in it), or minor damage. Automotive paint is pretty damn resilient stuff. Your average rain in the rust belt is just as dangerous to a car as PP is.

You use PP because unless you're an idiot and literally dump it on your car, you will never damage your paint yet it's one of if not the strongest cleaner. There's a reason most detailers use it, and whether or not you care about that is irrelevant. You don't even have to take my word for it, google what you said and you'll find it's not dangerous.

E: That label doesn't mean much. It's a disclaimer to avoid law suits if someone is stupid, and the instructions are geared towards someone coating something with PP, not lightly spraying then pressure washing. So that's not what I'm talking about.

Anyways I'm done with you again. I'm pretty sure you're only telling the op to not use it because I said to use it. I've explained all I care to do. OP should do his own research to decide what he wants to do.

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No we can't agree because I didn't say that. Pressure washing can also damage your paint, but that doesn't mean any amount will. It takes prolonged or excessive use of PP to damage clear coat. That's significant damage (which is impossible unless you encase your mirror, bumper, whatever in it), or minor damage. Automotive paint is pretty damn resilient stuff. Your average rain in the rust belt is just as dangerous to a car as PP is.

You use PP because unless you're an idiot and literally dump it on your car, you will never damage your paint yet it's one of if not the strongest cleaner. There's a reason most detailers use it, and whether or not you care about that is irrelevant. You don't even have to take my word for it, google what you said and you'll find it's not dangerous.




Do you detail? Or are you taking someone else's word for it? Pretty much everyone on autogeek that details for a living uses an automotive specific APC as do most of the hobbyists like myself. PP is great for engine bays that don't have aluminum or an excessive amounts of black plastic (simple green works better for that.) It is also good for undercarriage degreasing. That's it. Even using it on tires is dangerous because it inevitably gets on the wheels and the paint suffers long term. It spots aluminum wheels like a son of a bitch. Chrome handles it better than most anything else. Someone on AG called purple power and asked them directly about using it in dilute form as an APC and they told him not use it on painted surfaces under any circumstances. Straight from the horse's mouth... Use it if you want to. Don't spread bad advice to others though. Meguiars APC is like $2.50/gal after dilution opposed to PP at $1/gal. One was designed by a car care company for paint, the other is an industrial degreaser that clearly states on the bottle it is not paint safe. This shouldn't even be a discussion.

This post was edited by FMX_89 on Aug 15 2016 05:27am
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Aug 15 2016 05:39am
3M perfect-it absolutely DESTROYS bugs.

They also have a general adhesive remover that would do the same thing.



(And I wouldn't purple power my car)

This post was edited by OldAndyAndTheSea on Aug 15 2016 05:40am
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Aug 15 2016 06:59am
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3M perfect-it absolutely DESTROYS bugs.

They also have a general adhesive remover that would do the same thing.



(And I wouldn't purple power my car)


I've used that 3m product with good results
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Aug 15 2016 09:56am
lol Caedus are you really telling people to use pp on their cars......


palm fucking face man.
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Quote (KoJ @ Aug 15 2016 10:56am)
lol Caedus are you really telling people to use pp on their cars......


palm fucking face man.


I hope it's an epic troll thread. If not it looks like he has 0 hands on experience and takes 1 person's word as gospel.

I'd rather someone piss on my car than spray PP on it. (Pun intended)

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Aug 15 2016 03:51pm
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I hope it's an epic troll thread. If not it looks like he has 0 hands on experience and takes 1 person's word as gospel.

I'd rather someone piss on my car than spray PP on it. (Pun intended)


its not a troll thread it was an honest question about whether the aerosol shit was ok to use on good paint or not. i figured some of you that are always ranting and raving about clay bars and this and that would have good info i could use about whats safe to remove bugs. like you said it clearly states on that stuff not to use it on paint.
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Aug 15 2016 04:02pm
Quote (JDH @ Aug 15 2016 04:51pm)
its not a troll thread it was an honest question about whether the aerosol shit was ok to use on good paint or not. i figured some of you that are always ranting and raving about clay bars and this and that would have good info i could use about whats safe to remove bugs. like you said it clearly states on that stuff not to use it on paint.


I was talking about his posts, not your actual thread starter lol. He tried to pull that professional detailers told me blah blah crap and it backfired.
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